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If you haven't listened to it yet, highly recommend the Ryan Graves episode on the Joe Rogan Experience.

I used to occasionally watch JRE and at the time found some of the episodes to be interesting thought experiments. But then I watched one episode where the guest expert was talking about a topic in which I had enough familiarity to recognize that they were completely bullshitting their way through the interview and attempting to sound mysterious in order to avoid providing any factual information. Recalling the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect [0], I concluded that every previous episode I had watched was equivalent BS and I haven't watched another one since.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnes...

That doesn't seem to make much sense. Even if one guest is 100% bullshitting, why would that mean the next guest is too? I mean, it'd be fair to conclude that Joe is full of shit since he's always there, but with all of the people who have been on the podcast I can't imagine all of them are frauds who have no idea what they're talking about.

Stay skeptical, by all means, and don't count on the show to fact check everything for you, but why automatically dismiss them all as BS without evidence and without even hearing them out? If you found the show interesting before, you're probably missing out.

A good reason to not read the papers either.

Or the one with Lex Fridman.

https://youtu.be/qLDp-aYnR1Y

If the places to learn this info are JR and Lex Friedman, it can't possibly be true.

Podcasts are just a form of easily digestible popular media.

If you're actually interested in learning see UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record by Leslie Kean.

There are many such books with independent accounts of those who have experienced strange phenomena, that are all consistent with each other. These books are well researched and highly sourced with credible witnesses.

I suggest you reserve judgement on what is possible or not if you haven't engaged with the available evidence.

Oh I have. I also read all the legal documents for To The Stars; I thought it was notable that the marketing all sort-of kind-of offers to release alien hyperspace drives but none of the SEC documents do and their startup valuation doesn't include any.

Yeah TTSA is a mystery, and people in UFOlogy don't really know what to think about it. On one hand they've done a lot to further the dialogue, but the weird spin they put into it makes what they do put out harder to take seriously.

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