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It's been many years since I used wine on its own outside of proton. Is the experience mostly the same? As I understood, proton included slightly newer patches and tools to make games run better, did this stuff mostly make it back upstream?

Has anyone attempted running windows games on an Apple Silicon mac yet? How well does that work? I seem to remember 32 bit support being an issue previously.

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For a non-gaming use, I followed Shelby's/TechTagents' [0] guide for setting up an EEPROM programmer in Fedora 36 with Wine. I've been able to backup and flash several EEPROMs for my EMM8088 [1] XT replica, including BIOS, XT-IDE, VGA, RPL.

In the old days, I used to use Wine for backing up DVDs with DVDShrink, ripping my CD collection to MP3 players, and playing the Windows version of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory before the NVIDIA drivers became viable on Crux Linux.

[0] https://youtu.be/AeZDlz2F8GI

[1] https://www.homebrew8088.com/

I got Exact Audio Copy running in Wine recently w/o much fuss.

I've used it to ruin MusicBee for years. It has gotten much much better. While it was technically possible to get .net stuff to work, there was a lot of extra hoops to jump through. Now I just download the installer and run it (but I downgrade the main exe t to an older version to get around one annoying bug)

The Mac M1 thing though... Nope. The problem is that Wine on ARM becomes Windows ARM. Many (most?) Windows apps a aren't available on that architecture. So you need to user x86 wine.

Not for games specifically, but there is a derivative "wine-crossover" that runs 32 bit applications fine on M1, and generally seems to work pretty well (for esoteric scientific instrument software at least, nothing with fancy graphics).

See https://github.com/Gcenx/homebrew-wine

Normal wine works fine for most games, Steam's overlay layer frequently causes problems. I get the feeling they are sort of embracing and extending.

Why would they do that? It is their monetary incentive to have a healthy wine ecosystem.

Also, my experience is very much the opposite of yours — even very new games will work basically without a fuss with proton.

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