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Why is there this need for humans to be involved at all stages of production?

Do we still need humans to knit and handwash our clothes? To live in a caboose or lighthouse? To operate our elevators? To deliver the milk?

Why should anyone have to learn to draw in the future when machines promise to do a better job? There are so many better uses for our time, and too many things to do for our short lives to handle.

I want to compose music, despite no practice or formal training. I want to make an entire movie by myself with no other humans involved. Tech that enables these things will be empowering.

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It may be empowering, but it is not yet clear that the result will be appealing. Not trying to be an AI-skeptic, but I find art to still be mostly about communication; when I listen to some music I enjoy I feel like I have some shared experience with the author which they are able to communicate via music. I have yet to see this effect in AI-produced stuff, but even if the effect would be fully imitated, it is still not clear that it would have the same appeal.

An analogy: chess AI's are clearly superior to human chess by any reasonable measure. I still enjoy playing with other people (even online, even anonymously) infinitely more than playing with an AI, no matter how well calibrated/tuned to my level.

Yes, nothing communicates the lived human experience like chip tune music playing in the background of a video game.

I hear a lot of romantic notions yet I don't see a lot of people flocking to solo acoustic singer-songwriters!

These AIs will only ever be as good as what gets fed into them. It follows that without something going in, they will output nothing. That source material will always be human in nature, at least until these neural networks get large enough for emergent consciousness to exist, at which point we might see actual creativity from a machine.

An AI without new inputs to consume will not evolve creatively, and you will get bored of its output quite quickly, I think.

This might be something people arrive at at different ages, but at the end of the day other humans is ultimately why you’re doing what you do.

Yes, today ML can write you some run of the mill music and design assets, tell you how to develop the game, it can even play your game and write a review on it, but what’s the fun and/or point in that?

Just keep in mind, that movie will come out the same time when possibly 6 billion others will release theirs.

Sorry not clear: you want to compose music yourself or you want someone else to do for you?

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