A vaccine doesn't work unless it helps the tiny fraction of fentenyl deaths who unintentnially take the drug? How about this: You're less likely to come in contact with the drug if there are fewer users getting high off it.
I don't agree, and think it's immoral and unethical to subject citizens to such medical treatment without informed consent. However, under some ethical systems, the improvement in aggregate health makes in an ethical necessity.
Over a one's own choice to not have a medical procedure?
Should we do the same to those whom have abortions?
Who gets to make a choice on what medical procedures a population should have? Why is it not the individuals decision?
I know a few people who have died after taking what they thought were bars or ecstasy and died because it was laced with fentanyl. I know 0 who go out of their way to find and take fentanyl.
It makes at least some sense given the common narrative of the pipeline from painkiller addiction to heroin (i.e. it's the same relationship - people who are addicted to painkillers may transition to heroin because it's cheaper and more powerful).
Though, I have little exposure to hard drug culture, and get most of my information from headlines.
The real heroin, the real opioid pills, and other forms of opioids have mostly dried up. Now we get fentanyl and fentanyl analogs, and other potent synthetic opioids that aren't well tracked. The reason is that it's extremely potent so it's easier to smuggle from China, Mexico, wherever it's being made.
So now you get "pressies" [homemade pressed pills] which is diluted fentanyl. Everyone knows it's fentanyl. Everyone knows you can't get real heroin in the US anymore. They know these fake pills aren't real. Even worse, when the fentanyl dries up they start cutting it with xylazine and other bullshit that narcan doesn't even work on.
Research areas such as Kensington and the blighted areas of Baltimore. There's videos on youtube showing just how many users are out on the streets. You can imagine how many more are still not down to that level yet. You can also look at the opioid and drug subreddits. It's all fent and everyone wishes they could get their impure crappy brown heroin back.
Which is also why this won't work. Even 100% of the population were vaccinated against fentanyl, the end result would just be even more deaths because dealers would switch to using carfentanyl.
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10x people died of heart attacks than any opioid, not only fentenyl, over the past few years. Almost as many people died of cancer as heart attacks, and half as many people died of COVID as cancer.
Obviously, you can't equate research with other research; research and the drive to do research as a researcher is not a fungible item, but if we're spending tax payer money on it, why not a vaccine for foods that are low in fat, low in sodium, low in nutrition, and high in simple and processed carbs? That could save 700k+ lives a year in the US, more worldwide; and given that is also linked to cancer as the primary driver of it outside of smoking and drinking, another 600k+.
I'm gonna need a citation for that outrageous claim
> Obviously, you can't equate research with other research; research and the drive to do research as a researcher is not a fungible item, but if we're spending tax payer money on it, why not a vaccine for foods that are low in fat, low in sodium, low in nutrition, and high in simple and processed carbs? That could save 700k+ lives a year in the US, more worldwide; and given that is also linked to cancer as the primary driver of it outside of smoking and drinking, another 600k+.
Because that is nonsense. We don't have that technology.
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Since you're using ancedata, I'll use ancedata as well. I don't care to find the actual data.
Fentanyl is showing up in a huge amount of urinary drug screens right now. Unfortunately, much of this is the result of other drugs being cut with Fentanyl.
Thats kind of my point. If they managed to make a working vaccine, good on them. It doesn't necessarily take away from efforts into other things, as two parents above me were casually implying.
... unless you walk around downtown in many major cities, where you will come across dozens in the space of a city block. People who work in downtown Vancouver often carry naloxone kits, not because they're ever going to use, but because they don't want to watch somebody die on the street. You don't even need to know how to use the naloxone -- if somebody is in distress and you say "hey I've got a naloxone kit" you're already a hero because everybody else knows how to use it.
is this a joke?