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EDIT: I have no idea how this was seen as an attack comment.

First of all your question is terse and I think you need to expand a bit more so we can understand exactly what you want to know. For example are there any of the very few examples in this thread that you do not agree with? As always when this is discussed people get into the "holier than thou" argument some thing like: "they are not for diversity because they do not think my aspects are important enough". Feel free to use them as good examples of why diversity is needed.

I think you can find at least four arguments for diversity by reading the negative comments in this thread.

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Why attack the person asking a question, instead of giving examples? It's not productive, and you just come off as pretentious and are pushing the discussion into an unproductive direction.

How would you have liked the question to have been phrased? This isn't rhetorical, btw. I'm genuinely curious now.

I found one about facial recognition not working for black people, and another that comes to mind in a similar vein is that the new Goole Pixels phones seem to do some camera razzle dazzle to make skin tones more accurate.

Another example that comes to mind is Overwatch's dev team is fairly diverse, which leads to really authentic hero designs in the game.

I think the last one is probably the best one out of the three I listed. The first two required more diverse models not developers IMO. But I'll keep them until people contribute more examples.

Did not know that about Overwatch, I've only played a little and the heros did seem to have been given some care. The bar is low for most games though.

I care about understanding other people, if you ask a question with no context, I have no clue of what aspect interest you, and we will never be able to have a conversation. If you read the comments in this thread, the examples I see are mostly about inter personal relations that is something that has always been a big cost at all my workplaces. That is completely different from your examples.

I think we both agree that diversity is good. I've made great friends through work, but not the majority of them.

My friendship group is largely diversified by having "graduated" the friendships from knowing them online to meeting them in person, or meeting people at festivals. So, maybe I appreciate workplace diversity less in that aspect.

If it's a common vector for one to diversify their environment, then it might be boon.

I do think the way it's currently done is a bit... Shallow, lazy? For lack of a better analogy, it reminds me of a fad diet. But that's not really a constructive criticism on the topic, since I don't know what we should do better either

> way it's currently done is a bit... Shallow, lazy?

Many in this thread have valid whataboutism points of the diversity argument, even if they are valid the danger is that they derail the argument. You should not undermine a movement if you support their goals in someway, you have to learn how to compromise or just learn from them and take up the fight for yourself.

I've been part of building up many organizations, the online ones are always easier. That said I do not spend time with any of those people except online. I do not have the capacity for that.

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