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You seem to forget that Japan had at least 150 years of constant civil war. It's culturally cohesive because they force everyone into conformity.

There's a story about a homeless castaway happily living on a secluded island, until they've found him, send him over to the mainland and banned him from ever returning.

Which is probably why they have so many subcultures and emphasize on hobbies.

https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2022/07/obsessed-irwin-wong-j...

I wouldn't worry too much for them. I'd worry if I was Russia or China or North Korea if they are given a carte blanch for revival of militarism and left unchecked.

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>It's culturally cohesive because they force everyone into conformity.

As did modern Germany, France, Italy, Romania, Spain etc. No European country is 100% homogenous. They each have regions that have little in common culturally with the country but they were assimilated by force.

This is in no way comparable. Cultural conformity is not being enforced in Europe. Not in schools, not at work, and not in general society. Definitely not to the level you'd experience in Japan.

>Cultural conformity is not being enforced in Europe

Not nearly as much now, but it was definitely enforced 100 to 50 or so years ago in most European countries to the point of being illegal to speak another language than the official local one and ethnic discrimination was rampant. Yes, also in schools and at work. See South Tyrol and Italy and there's other such examples in Europe. Conformity was definitely enforced.

Glossing over this dark past doesn't change the fact that it happened here as well.

France as well, even until very recently. The cancellation of the show about Lafayette and French Revolution in Puy-du-Fou is a good example none talk about publicly because politically unacceptable.

> Cultural conformity is not being enforced in Europe

Of course its being enforced, especially in non-Federal countries. The TV usually speaks one language and no dialects, the education system is controlled by the head of the State, the same goes for media entities usually controlled by people close to the government.

The difference is in the amount of zeal with which conformism is enforced. The social pressure to comform is ridiculously low in Europe and North America compared to most of the world.

That a country's outlets speaks the majority language is not in the same league.

I was thinking along the lines of gender roles, marrying late, having a different hair colour, or generally going against the flow, not the language TV shows are in.

> No European country is 100% homogenous

Hungary is close and in some way they have somewhat similar issues as Japan but to a lesser extent.

In Greece they also don't have minorities, not oficially anyway, other than the muslims in Western Greece, Armenians and some Jews.

> if they are given a carte blanch for revival of militarism and left unchecked.

Japanese militarism has been going on for quite a while on slow burner. They can assemble nukes in half no time, they have aircraft carriers called 'destroyers', and they've changed the doctrine to first strike in response to NorK's missile tests. We are rapidly falling into the abyss.

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