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If you're interested in feats of low-size games, I offer you kkrieger, a 3D FPS that fits in 96KB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fZBUsn5RYg

Timestamp where the gameplay starts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fZBUsn5RYg&t=97s

I enjoyed the video. However for me it’s not about the game being small, it’s about implementing anything 3d (or any game for that matter) in awk!

AFAIK this was achieved by heavily using DirectX API and features it contains. When running, it uses around 300 MiB of RAM.

The textures and models are procedurally generated at load time!

Of course they are using DX or OpenGL - how else are they supposed to display graphics? )

just write bytes to the framebuffer?

Did you know that the original Doom game was shipped in 1993 with a VM running Windows 10, just for the DirectX driver? It was the only way to do computer graphics at that time /s

wrong parent?

Was it? I wanted to support mgaunard point, hence the "/s".

The very submission you're commenting on is a 3d game without DX or openGL.

Do you expect it to ship its own userspace driver, kernel driver and kernel?

Yeah, if it doesn’t boot it doesn’t count. Everything after reset vector counts as game code.

It wasn't my intention to discredit the kkrieger game, it's nonetheless a great accomplishment.

Details on how it was made…

https://youtu.be/bD1wWY1YD-M

This is wild. One wonders what would happen if the (perhaps misguided) ideals that shaped that project returned to being in vogue.

Previous discussions for a post about how they achieved that feat.

https://fgiesen.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/metaprogramming-for...

Nov 12, 2020 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25043199

Aug 8, 2019 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20635640

May 13, 2014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7739599

Procedural generation for 3D content is something quite common nowadays - see Substance Designer as an example.

AFAIK the people behind kkrieger tried to push their tool for commercial use at some point but it didn't seem to catch on - but that was years ago.

Huge but somewhat dull games. No Man's Sky is probably the big name that went that way recently. Or, in its own way, Dwarf Fortress.

I'm not sure I'd lump DF in there at all. It may be procedural generated, but there is a mountain of depth to it.

Pun intended? It was just the two programmers writing that for a long time so I guess the mostly-procedurally-generated content makes sense.

Nice. My little CLI utility that filters and lists my servers in EC2 is 11MB (GO).

Too small for me.. I'd like to containerize this and add at least 10 more MB, do you have a Dockerfile already?

perhaps an AppImage for easy cross-platform support -- that should add an order of magnitude

A snap. Lol

Tbf, 11mb is all it needs. Add in the graphics library and assorted libc utils that Awk is using and it would be similar.

In the linked video, one of the kkrieger devs (kb) comments and addresses some FAQs

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