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You have to be disconnected from wifi and Ethernet to be offered the option of a local account. This was removed in 11.

If you create the bootable Windows 11 media with Rufus, it "allows to bypass the mandatory requirement for a Microsoft account on Windows 11 22H2. (NB: Network MUST be temporarily disabled for the local account creation to be proposed). Also add an option to skip all collection questions (Sets all answers to "Don't allow")".

for windows 10 at least, now it lets you create the local account beore starting the imaging process

the windows 10 setup wizard still tries to get you to log in, to the point of writing on the wizard "your computer must be connected to the internet to finish setup"

and yet... after you unplug the ethernet cable... it lets you finish setup without internet...

> Microsoft executives had, according to him, "proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false. ... Microsoft is a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect. It is also a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....

Not entirely, you can open a terminal and input a command to bypass it. It is kind of ironic, though, considering "open a terminal and input a command" is usually considered to be a take-that against GNU/Linux.

Simpler option is to enter a@a.com and any password. It'll error and then let you create local account.

Yep, this still works at least on Windows 10. I did it about 3-4 months ago when setting up a laptop for someone. You do need to fail a few times in a row before it lets you create a local account.

Good to know. What is the command? And what’s the shortcut to get a terminal?

Per https://www.ghacks.net/2022/05/13/how-to-bypass-the-microsof..., you can type Shift-F10 to break into a command prompt during OOBE and run this command: OOBE\BYPASSNRO. Or you can try logging in with a banned email address like no@thankyou.com.

Doesn't work on the Surface with W11 that I recently acquired. I managed to attach a keyboard, but Shift-F10 had no effect.

I'd try the banned email address, then.

Coincidentally, that's why I am not using win11, despite all its improvements over win10.

(The one i miss most is GUI support in WSL )

That actually shipped to Windows 10: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/the-windows-subsy...

WSL GUI has been "available" in win10 for over a year now, but doesn't seem to work outside the insider program.

On win11 it seems to work fine.

Right, and last November it hit general availability. You don’t need to be running an Insiders build of Windows 10 any more. That was the announcement I linked.

It shipped via the Microsoft Store, so you have to specifically install it, but it works fine on a fully updated non-Insiders Windows 10.

I've never performed such a thing and I'm using local account.

Maybe that's because I have Win10 Pro? idk.

Maybe you have a Microsoft account

I use Windows 11 Professional and was able to install using a local account while connected to WiFi.

If you know what the UI looked like while you accomplished this, that would be useful. I've had to reach back behind the machine, unplug the ethernet, and reboot to get it to realize I'm just trying to setup a spare machine for visitors.

If you tell it it's going to connect to a domain, it will let you make a local account. This, of course, requires Pro or better.

On "old" versions you could - or at least you could not connect and it would allow to create a local account in this case. On the last one MS says you can't OOBE without the Internet, even with Pro, and at a first glance it seems you actually can't, but then you just press shift+F10, type oobe\bypassnro, and then it reboots and you actually can again.

I'm not sure why they consider that it makes any sense. Probably just a motherfucker higher-up who really like dark patterns and annoying their customers^W advertising targets, so MS can resell more private informations and they get a big bonus.

Not really. You can get around this with:

Shift + F10 > taskmgr > Network Connection flow > End task

I recall having to do something like this when starting a new laptop with 10. I think I hopped in the car and drove a little ways down the street. See? No internet connectivity, honest!

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