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Bivalent Covid-19 Vaccines – A Cautionary Tale

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Finally a bit of sanity around this topic, from a physician at the Vaccine Education Center, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia no less, and printed in the New England Journal of Medicine:

"I believe we should stop trying to prevent all symptomatic infections in healthy, young people by boosting them with vaccines containing mRNA from strains that might disappear a few months later."

Sweden is well ahead of the curve:

Jan 28, 2022: Sweden decides against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sweden-decides-against-...

Sep 30, 2022: Sweden to stop offering Covid jabs to teenagers https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-09-sweden-covid-jabs-tee...

You have a typo in your first date. Should be obvious to any readers but figured I'd mention anyway.

Unfortunately, It's doubtful invoking Sweden will be persuasive to those who firmly believe they had worse outcomes during the pandemic due to their policies.

> You have a typo in your first date.

Those are the correct dates as reported by the respective sites: January 28, 2022 for Reuters and September 30, 2022 for Medical Xpress.

The first date says "2002" not "2022".

My humblest apologies! Thanks for letting me know - just fixed it. Again, mea culpa!

> It's doubtful invoking Sweden will be persuasive to those who firmly believe they had worse outcomes during the pandemic due to their policies.

Apparently countries that enacted far more draconian policies than Sweden actually fared worse in incidence of COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 population[0], like Italy (307.07), Austria (239.5), France (241.38), and Spain (246.46) (vs. 206.86 for Sweden).

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-deat...

Someone I know lined up to get jabbed and boosted in January/December 2021. He was still traumatized by his severe COVID-19 esperience in ... june 2020? In November '22 he said he's going to pass on getting bi-boosted, on account of not enjoying the adverse effects of getting boosted.

The silly thing is he probably had really good immunity from his actual case of COVID in '20. I don't think anyone claims that vaccine immunity > natural immunity anymore.

> The silly thing is he probably had really good immunity from his actual case of COVID in '20. I don't think anyone claims that vaccine immunity > natural immunity anymore.

2021 was a weird period in history where one could make extraordinary claims without providing extraordinary evidence while those pointing this out were being ostracized.

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