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The proof will be in the pudding, but this seems like a near-total capitulation to me. That's a relief if so. I enjoy other systems, but I do also love D&D, and I'd hate to abandon it.

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Not quite. WoTC has said that they are still planning on banning third party publishers from releasing anything new based on old OGL 1.0 content.

EDIT: Oops, accidentally said "in this post", when WoTC's announcement was in the FAQ that got leaked.

  > Can I keep using OGL 1.0a to develop fifth edition content?
  > 
  > No. OGL 1.0a only allows creators to use "authorized" versions of the OGL, which allows Wizards to determine which of its prior versions to continue to allow use of when we exercise our right to update the license. As part of rolling out OGL 2.0, we are deauthorizing OGL 1.0a from future use and deleting it from our website. This means OGL 1.0a can no longer be used to develop content for release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTXkxy2KjXU

I don't see that mentioned anywhere in this post?

It even explicitly states "Content already released under 1.0a will also remain unaffected."

(though ideally they'd, you know, make that legally binding.)

The implication being that the OGL going forward will be 1.1.

Content already released, yes. The post says nothing about being able to make new things under 1.0a, which is where a lot of the nervousness comes in for people.

Sure, but "not being explicit" is very different than the way OP phrased it ("WoTC says in this post") -- it made me think I'd missed some explicit mention of it.

FWIW, I don't even believe they ever wanted to try to claw back e.g. the 3.5 SRD, so I'm not as concerned as other folk here. (But it's also clear that if they have no such intent, they'd need to make it legally binding for folk to trust them.)

Content already released is not the same being able to release new content under 1.0a. They might try and force all new content to be under the new OGL. The issue is they are tapped out of good will from the community and have shown themselves to use weasel words. So all press releases from them should not be given any benefit of the doubt.

Oops, wasn't in this post, but it was in the FAQ that got leaked today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTXkxy2KjXU

  > Can I keep using OGL 1.0a to develop fifth edition content?
  > 
  > No. OGL 1.0a only allows creators to use "authorized" versions of the OGL, which allows Wizards to determine which of its prior versions to continue to allow use of when we exercise our right to update the license. As part of rolling out OGL 2.0, we are deauthorizing OGL 1.0a from future use and deleting it from our website. This means OGL 1.0a can no longer be used to develop content for release.

That would be alarming if true, but it's a bit hard to trust the authenticity of the leak here.

Where do you see that? I can't find that language.

The first paragraph says their intention was to exclude "major corporations" from benefiting from the license. When they talk about revisions, they mention protecting "educational and charitable campaigns, livestreams, cosplay, VTT-uses, etc" - which is basically saying non-commercial use.

With those two bits, I expect OGL 1.1 to only allow commercial use.

They do explicitly say "Content already released under 1.0a will also remain unaffected" though!

They still don't have the right to do this, the original content was licensed under the OGL 1.0a, and the people who wrote it described their intent over and over again as it being non revocable and that people could just do whatever they want even legally if they wanted to stop them.

They would lose any serious challenge in court, though i wonder how much hasbro lawyers would drag it out...

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