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Interesting! Can you share an example or two of such an observation?

Not OP but one I cannot look past anymore is when the movie has dialogue that is only there to spell out the plot to the audience.

Usually it's very small things - some background character gleefully shouting out the obvious in the only line they have in the production.

"Maverick's re-engaging, Sir!" From the radar operator in Top Gun.

"It's gonna blow!" In every bomb scene ever.

Etc.

Or my least favorite, able to destroy everything in an instance just by connecting the movie to reality: "Ah, they search for a killer? It's that guy, because there is no other reason to cast that role and pay the premium to have this person also talk!"

Most blatant example: "The Bone Collector"

I don't even remember the turns of the story in that movie, as it was clear within the first 10 minutes...

i always appreciate a bone collector reference. what a ridiculous silly amazing movie.

for me the quintessential example is "Phone Booth." starring Kiefer Sutherland, you say? i wonder what role he plays.

i think the movie "Seven" (Se7en) managed to keep the surprise bad guy out of the trailer and unbilled until the end credits. that was badass.

That would be almost every movie and tv show ever for me. My wife is much better than me at figuring out whodunnit, but I can see stuff like this easily. Fortunately it rarely gets in the way of enjoying things.

I wonder what the bad guy in Se7en would do to someone like Kevin Spacey

I experienced what seemed to be a variation of this in Amsterdam, a David Russel film no less. Everything is revealed at the end but a character is tasked with verbally and lengthily repeating everything that just happened as if the audienced hadn't just witnessed it themselves. I was taken aback by sheer idiocy of the segment that it seemed like a caricature of a studio exec finding a very basic plot confusing and taking the final cut from the director and adding a ELI5 scene at the end.

Examples are hard to remember. Often modern movies are attempting to subvert the tropes. Thus as parent comment mentions you might notice the structure of the film is doing X only to subvert that expectation.

For me the most memorable time was "Captive State". Namely in how the film subverted the heist tropes. The film did poor in the box office, but personally I found it the best film in recent memory. Exactly because I noticed how the film raised tension never relieving said tension. I'd say more, but I truly think you, the person reading this comment, should watch it.

Adam Sandler films are another good example. In that his films do not subvert tropes. Which in part makes watching easy for mainstream audiences. Which will cause you to laugh at his jokes a scene early.

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