Maybe you should be more discerning about what MAGA crazed conspiracy theorist weirdos you read, and what MAGA crazed conspiracy theories you spread.
You can find 10 posts in the past 30 days where people here are saying "omg, greedy corporation does greedy thing".
Just the other day we had a post saying "maybe the U.S. economy won't continue to grow forever and the stock market won't continue to return 7% a year"
Asked ChatGPT
> Is Wall Street known to be trustworthy and moral?
> Over the years there have been many instances of scandals, manipulation and fraud on Wall Street, which has damaged the reputation of the street.
Asked it this as well
> Are there instances of the U.S. government hiding the truth/lying to its citizens/being inefficient with taxpayer money?
> There have been instances in history where the U.S. government has been accused of hiding the truth, lying to its citizens, or being inefficient with taxpayer money.
I'm just trying to have a conversation. These MAGA people get a ton of power when you shut them down because they can point and say "see! listen! they don't want our points to be voiced! that means we're onto something"
"Argument from ChatGPT" is much worse than Argument from Authority. If you can't come up with your own arguments, then don't quote ChatGPT's arguments to me, just admit you're out of arguments.
Oh no, by shutting down and not listening to MAGA conspiracy theory parrots like you, I'm giving them power, because then they'll point fingers and lie, you threaten??!
Well they'll certainly point fingers and lie even if I listen to them too, so be it.
Hmm, now where have I heard that "I don't believe what I'm saying, I'm just askin' questions" line before, again and again?
Tucker “Just Asking Questions” Carlson Wants to Know What Putin Ever Did to You
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/02/tucker-just-asking-q...
Fox News is 'Just Asking Questions' About the Safety of Vaccines
https://gizmodo.com/fox-news-is-just-asking-questions-about-...
Seth Meyers Nails Tucker Carlson’s ‘Just Asking Questions’ Nonsense
https://www.thedailybeast.com/seth-meyers-nails-tucker-carls...
How is me trying to discuss what somewhere between 0 and 50% of registered American voters believes in regards to "crypto fraud versus Wall Street fraud versus the stock market has been running on 0% interest rate money is basically fake fraud" whatever it is you're accusing me of doing?
I'm surprised somebody who has been on this site since 2014 with 20,000 karma is this rude/accusatory.
It's also not an appropriate place to post ChatGPT output instead of writing your own arguments.
Is it ChatGPT who told you to point fingers and play the victim of oppression if somebody tries to shut you down for spreading MAGA conspiracy theories, or did you come up with that yourself?
The point is that when you are spreading their conspiracy theories and telling people to let them speak and not silence them or else, that makes YOU one of those MAGA people you're warning us about. Witting or unwitting, you're useful to them.
"i read a lot of this (pretty much MAGA crazed conspiracy theorist weirdos)"
We’re not bulls, we don’t have to charge when we see red (hats).
And again I repeat, since you seem to be ignoring it: he tried to quote ChatGPT to support his lack of a valid argument. Nobody comes to this site to have arguments with ChatGPT, and ChatGPT and language models were certainly not the topic of this conversation. He might as well have been quoting his cat walking across the keyboard.
He was unsuccessfully trying to use ChatGPT output to prove his point. If he had a valid argument that he thought of himself to support his point, then he would have posted it instead of first parroting crazy MAGA conspiracy theory weirdos (which makes him their tool, witting or not), then parroting ChatGPT (which makes him a fool).
Even if he frames himself as merely a self-appointed ambassador to HN for crazy liars, he's still spreading their crazy lies. And if he trusts everything ChatGPT says so much, then he can PRIVATELY ask it "I’ve read X by conspiracy group Y. I think I believe it but I want to ask others first as I think they’re crazy weirdos." instead of trying to spread those crazy lies and conspiracy theories here.
Hacker News is not an appropriate forum for parroting crazy MAGA conspiracy theories or ChatGPT drivel as fact, or whining about how you're the victim of oppression and censorship for being downvoted and shut down when you're clearly breaking the rules.
And his threat not to shut him down or else he'll point fingers and claim to be the victim of censorship doesn't matter if crazy liars will spread crazy lies in retaliation for being shut down, because they spread crazy lies no matter what you do, so his threat that we should not shut him down for spreading crazy lies because it will make crazy liars spread crazy lies is tautological and meaningless.
In the interest of geopolitical curiosity and fairness, what exactly did Putin do to you?
It might repeat what some people have said. ChatGPT isn't designed to determine a consensus or to use a representative sample.
> the model predicts people would most likely say about the subject
Is that truly the design and the output? What "people"? Is "most likely" the goal or output? Is it structured by subject?
Maybe you know, but many people are leaping to conclusions.
Are you using ChatGPT as a source of truth? If so, what do you think about the obvious accuracy issues?