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This has actually been my issue with Neeva since before the AI thing. I love the idea of a search engine I can fund by paying directly instead of hoping Google can continue to make money off giving me stuff, but 95% of my Neeva searches result in going to Google anyways.

For a while my muscle memory when searching was to prefix with a "g" so why pay a middle man?

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> I love the idea of a search engine I can fund by paying directly instead of hoping Google can continue to make money off giving me stuff

I have found Kagi to be a nearly 100% replacement for Google

I signed up for Kagi. I’m disappointed in all the login stuff.

You use the session link too, right? That way, once you log in once, you can set your browser to use it as the default search engine and avoid the need to ever log in again.

What do you mean, I just login once on web/mobile, set as default search engine and forget

I've been using Kagi for a few months and while it is better than Google/DDG in many aspects, it still inherits the problem of ignoring words in queries.

Also, the "International" region has a strong American bias. Google still handles localised search results significantly better than anything else. I'm still a paying customer of Kagi though and I hope they get a chance to work on these issues.

Kagi still relies on Google, Bing and others to provide search results. Google and Microsoft could, in theory, end their business by refusing to provide them the search API or increasing prices by 10x. I really hope Kagi or something like it succeeds in the long term, but I don't know how viable their model is going to be without removing dependencies on megacorps.

I haven't seen them before but trying them now. Thanks! Maybe I should try to do a write up these different options.

Have you tried Brave search? I actually found it to be good and you can use it for free or subscribe for an ad free version.

What powers Brave search?

Brave powers Brave Search.

Independent search Even supposedly “neutral” or “private” search engines rely on big tech for results. Brave is different. We deliver results based on our own built-from-scratch index. We’re beholden to no one.

Tbh I didn't realize they had a paid option until I looked after reading this comment. I'll probably try it out, thanks.

I have switched over to using you.com for search. Been using it for a few months now and I almost never have to go back to Google for general search.

The only kind of search that I consistently need to use google for is looking up the meaning of words, so searching "define something", for everything else it's been weeks between needing to use Google.

I agree 100%. They had good ideas like being able to prioritize/blacklist sites from results. But ultimately they just seem to be chasing every gimmick instead of focusing on building a good product.

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