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Thank you. What are the advantages to this over a light shell script that uses `kubectl + helm` CLI tools in your opinion?

You can just `terraform apply` and that's it?

My concern is it adds a "third" technology/abstraction layer (Terraform) to another underlying 2 (Helm + Kubernetes, which are also "abstraction layers" in themself, right?)

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For me there is a benefit in having a single abstraction layer, the Terraform root module, to make IaC changes, and specifically one that is in the form of data rather than a script. The data incidentally contains everything required for reproducibility (all dependency versions are pinned, etc), and it always calls only versioned modules that are published independently. There is one Terraform wrapper script that runs from CI/CD and it is the only script, no matter what kind of change is being made, Kubernetes or otherwise. Teaching someone how to make a change is easy, they just need to make a change to the data and apply it. If the data layer doesn't support the necessary change, then work can be done to add the capability to one of the modules and then publish a new version. For simple needs this might be overkill, but in my environment it helps to keep things from getting out of hand. Helm and Kubernetes are abstraction layers, but very specific ones, whereas Terraform is a generic one that ties it all together.

> There is one Terraform wrapper script that runs from CI/CD and it is the only script, no matter what kind of change is being made, Kubernetes or otherwise.

Is it just basically:

    terraform init

    terraform apply -var "env=$ENV" -auto-approve

It also defines the state in a standard way, toggles CLI configuration if it is present in the root module, and does some validation.

could you share it/expand on “defines the state”? i thought state was captured in tfstate and then terraform goes and “diffs”/checks if it is accurate or not

I was referring to how and where we store it. Feel free to email me if you have more questions.

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