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Also The T-1000 murders people prior to the reveal, while Arnold doesn't.

Even if Arnie had killed anyone prior to the reveal, it would've still been consistent. He didn't have any orders not to do that until later, and the way he took them onboard it seemed clear that the orders were a change to his tactics. Although, seeing who sent him back, it's probably strange they weren't his original orders anyway. I always found the Terminator movies full of that kind of circular weirdness.

Anyway for the T2 twist, I always just assumed that when T1 was shot, Arnie was kinda unknown, but by T2 he was a pretty big Hollywood action star and couldn't be the bad guy anymore. So they had to wrangle him being the good guy into a sequel if they wanted him back.

This may have been changed from the original cut but I recall it being intentionally unclear that the T-1000 killed the first cop. They made it look like he just passed out from a gut punch, which of course makes little sense.

Wait, Arnold shot the guy in the gun shop? I haven't seen the movie in ten years, but I think that's prior to the shootout at the police station?

In Terminator 1, yes. He loads up on guns at the shop and Muir sees the owners there. That is the firepower he uses to take out the police station.

I loved that scene. Uzis, full auto assault rifles, laser sight pistols, phased plasma 40kilowatt rifles (not in stock apparently), "good for home defense" line.

Such a good scene, and captures a window into the terror and deadly force we add to our own society, just a corner gunshop visit away.

I'm talking about in T2, Arnold doesn't kill anyone in the entire movie. In T1 he kills several people while Kyle Reese doesn't kill anyone, even when he has the opportunity.

True, though prior to the reveal, Arnold does stab one of the bikers and proceed to throw him onto a hot kitchen griddle.

He was attacked with a knife and was even stabbed, and I believe the response was non-fatal in all cases. We don't understand yet why the Terminator isn't killing everyone like in the first Terminator movie at this point until later on, but at the same time most people don't realize the Terminator isn't killing indiscriminately either due to how effortlessly its enemies are subdued. Sorta maybe like how Batman beating up people makes some forget that he doesn't shoot / kill enemies.

> Sorta maybe like how Batman beating up people makes some forget that he doesn't shoot / kill enemies.

Kinda reminds me of my top-3 favorite TV shows ever, Person of Interest. The protagonist there had a habit of knee-capping the criminals instead of shooting to kill, which seems like the more humane alternative, but the more I think about it, the less I'm sure.

He'll live.

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