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The innovation is spectacular, BUT, there needs to be a signal/low pitch sound that denotes this is generated audio in every single generated sample (likely legally enforced), or your grandma and kids will soon be getting legitimate sounding voice calls from you after someone calls/visits/interviews you first to record and train a model on your voice (as a simplest potential abuse vector, celebrities and anyone with public voice samples would be even easier).

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Are scam callers particularly worried about legal issues? I wouldn't expect that "audio cues" would impress them any more than "literally committing fraud/theft".

I don't think scams are the most likely, but you gotta admit there's an endless list of nefarious uses for this.

Oh, I absolutely agree that this - and a thousand other variants! - will be used for all kinds of terrible things. I even disagree with you; I think we will see a wave of scams using this tech, though it'll take some work by the scammers (since they need an audio sample of someone that's applicable to a specific target). I just don't think mandating adding a "watermark" (sorry, is there a better term for audio?) will help (and I'm a little nervous because I can't think of anything that will help).

You are absolutely right about how this will be abused, but your enforcement mechanism is neither practical nor enforceable. I'm not sure how to address this problem short of throwing ever larger books at fraudsters or trying to conceal technical information.

An idea... have a robot voice or a similar filter for all unknown callers. With different profiles for out-of-state/country, unknown number, ...

Maybe there are voice-changer apps that could work in reverse?

It’s too late, the cat is out of the bag

Seems like there could be better technical solutions for the problem of impersonation (digital signature, etc.) as malicious actors could just make their own TTS without such noises.

Cool, so I just throw a high pass at it.

> Okay then a number of frequencies

Cool so I use multiple band cut passes on it.

etc.

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