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NYC schools block ChatGPT, fearing negative impact on learning

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Nothing like good motivation for teaching children basic computer skills like block circumvention and sandbox escape methods from an early age.

Besides, if AI can do the homework maybe it is the homework or teacher that has failed the Turing test.

For all the talk of equity, this seems to be potentially a very inequitable policy. You can't block access at home, so this would most affect those who don't have internet at home or don't have a comfortable environment at home to do their schoolwork.

>New York City Public Schools have blocked access to OpenAI's ChatGPT AI model on its network and devices, reports educational news site Chalkbeat. The move comes amid fears from educators that students will use ChatGPT to cheat on assignments, accidentally introduce inaccuracies in their work, or write essays in a way that will keep them from learning the material.

It's wikipedia all over again. Sorry kids, but this is exactly how you want it to be. This is how your generation learns that censorship sux. Its unfortunately a frustrating lesson. But it will pass. Here's the eerily similar wikipedia story from 2007:

https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2007/11/banning-wikipe...

"Fearing negative impact on learning"

Yeah right.

I've learned more about coding in the past few weeks using ChatGPT to make a few projects than months of tutorials.

This tech can be an extremely powerful tool for learning.

What/how did you learn from chatGPT that made it better than tutorials? How did you verify what it was telling you was correct as it has a propensity to make stuff up?

Because instead of doing a tutorial I've actually made a couple websites using Node JS, Express, and Heroku.

The code it gives seems pretty good but not perfect. It's good enough for me to take it and change it as needed.

But the code itself isn't the biggest learning aid. It's troubleshooting problems.

When I hit an error - not just within the code but with deployment too - I just pop it into ChatGPT and it will give me suggestions on what might be wrong. This has been phenomenonal.

Previously I lacked the confidence to take on building interactive websites because when I ran into issues deploying it, I found it difficult to figure out why. ChatGPT seems to have a lot of troubleshooting information available and it is very good at giving multiple suggestions to fix the problem.

Honestly I'm guessing it's superior to having a knowledgeable human helping me, because no human could possibly create a text response in seconds giving three different explanations for why my Heroku logs are giving me a particular error.

that's really interesting, I wonder what's it's reading to troubleshoot. StackOverflow, presumably? It sound like a handy way of collating multiple answers into one quick, coherent format which would be super helpful.

There is always something being blocked. I graduated high school in 2000. Language teachers were concerned about babelfish at Alta vista and ti 83 calculators were being used to store answers in tests. I remember hearing stories about people creating programs to pretend all the data in the calculators were cleared - I bet those people are excellent programs now. Wikipedia after that was not to be used as a citation. Once I started college the blocks were against Napster and napigator was used to get around the blocks. The point is if someone wants to get around a block they will.

Instead of figuring out how to adapt to a revolution & technology, we keep doing this.

This is hilarious. But they (teachers) deserve to get paid as much or more than us.

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