> even jogging in place got me over 130
The cardiac exercise research group in Norway have developed and tested an online maximum heart rate calculator.
https://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/hrmax
Check what that number is for you.
The interval training they recommend would be about 90% of maximum heart rate.
(For example, I'm in my early 60s and I'm supposed to push my heart rate into the range 150—165 bpm.)