75% of Covid ‘long haulers’ free of symptoms in 12 months: McMaster study
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Though, the 3 I know of because they have/had the obvious lack of taste. Maybe more don't notice that also have other issues.
Really hope anyone else struggling with long covid sees improvements.
It may be that women are more vocal in looking for help and support with the illness. But no studies have actually shown that this affects more women.
That's been my experience too. I've also adjusted my lifestyle to compensate. I try not to do non-necessary activities too many days in a row anymore. Every now and then I get cocky about it and try to "push through" the tiredness/fatigue and I get a rude reminder about why I haven't been doing that.
25% of Long COVID patients have symptoms longer than 12 month. Given the risk of getting Long COVID, between 5% and 15%, that's a lot of people.
the difference "25% of [all] COVID patients" vs. "25% of long COVID patients."
The submission headline is misleading. It is 25% of COVID patients are long haulers not 75% of long haulers are free of symptoms in 12 months.
As someone with personal experience, *chronic* fatigue is difficult to measure, especially if it’s getting gradually worse, but routine tests like blood tests and ECG; especially under physical stress can measure degradation or improvements.
I personally cannot do my work commute without being absolutely knackered for hours, and sweating like hell - since I had covid.
You ask things about getting through the work day, how far one can walk without taking a break or nap, if they can get housework done, if a shower means that a nap is soon to come. You ask about cooking, whether or not they are forgetting everyday stuff that the rest of us don't have much issue with, and other such things.
It isn't like folks are complaining about being a little tired, but rather more like the sort of fatigue that means you have to take a break while chopping onions and you might have to recover after taking a shower. You might not get your housework done even if that's all you have to do.
Do you have a better source?
>All types of distress were significantly associated with increased risk of post–COVID-19 conditions in a dose-dependent manner after adjustment for demographic factors (probable depression, RR, 1.39 [95% CI, 1.19-1.63]; probable anxiety, RR, 1.47 [95% CI, 1.27-1.70]; very worried about COVID-19, RR, 1.43 [95% CI, 1.22-1.68]; highest quartile of perceived stress, RR, 1.50 [95% CI, 1.21-1.86]; lonely some of the time or often, RR, 1.35 [95% CI, 1.11-1.65]; all P < .01 for trend)
This is consistent with other studies, e.g.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-4905
>Increased risk for PASC was noted in women and those with a history of anxiety disorder.
As an aside, the inception of the "condition" is always worth considering in any discussion of long covid:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dubious-origins-of-long-cov...
I might be on this boat. (I rather hope not. I'm only a few weeks in, so we'll see.) I still have a persistent cough. It sounds different than a normal cough, much raspier, and I'm still coughing up phlem.
Pycnogenol, nattokinase, grape seed extract, vit d/c, b vits, etc.
Let's define "long haulers" as those exhibiting system after Y months.
The percentage of long haulers is 0.25 <= X <= 1.
We need to replace 0.75 with
0 <= 1 - (X / 0.25) <= 0.75
(Sorry for offtopic here, original thread is closed, and I don't have your other contacts.)
Ok, so this is politic, and had nothing to do with the reporting of twitter data being available on the dark web.
Not sure which is worse.
Pretending this shit is real only makes it worse for them. They earnestly do suffer, but not for the reasons they claim; it's a sort of mental illness they suffer from.
If you could back this up with any fact then I'd be interested in discussing.
As this is just your ill-informed opinion, then I've no interest in talking more.
After getting covid she was 'flu' ill for about 2 weeks then got worse. Along side losing her sense of smell (back before that was a known symptom), her heart rate and blood pressure spiked. About a year later she was diagnosed with POTS and myocarditis. She's been lucky that after another 6 or so months, and numerous tests showing her heart issues, that it slowly got better. Her blood pressure still drops, and her heart rate can still spike occasionally.
Despite all this all she wants is to get better and to enjoy life and our kids again. She can work again now (though she's had to move into a new career) but is shattered easily. She'd love to workout but even light exercise can leave her wiped out for a day or two.
She's building back up slowly, but for someone who did so much, it is a real pain. So please realise that most people with long covid have no interest in sitting and suffering. All they want is to be better. Not being believed and stupid comments like yours do more damage than you can imagine.
(note that after SARs infections people had similar responses - so long covid should not be considered novel).
I have no idea where this narrative of munchausen by internet is coming from. This is a novel virus that we know very little about. I do not choose to suffer nor do I expect any pity. But I sure as hell will do everything in my power to overcome it.
Yours is the unscientific position. We don't need to be able to explain a phenomena to observe it happening in a novel, unprecedented way to millions of people, that just happens to be correlated with them catching a novel, serious disease.
Correct.
But that's not the situation that people have with long COVID. The situation that they do have is that they test positive for COVID, they get regular COVID symptoms (loss of smell, brain fog, fatigue), that then don't go away after three weeks.
> Long term debilitating diseases happen to people very single day, and since there is quite a high percent chance of a person catching corona in that day as well
Except that it's not a high chance that on any particular day/week/month you're going to catch COVID, and an even lower chance that you're going to catch a completely unrelated, rare, hitherto unknown disease that has all the same symptoms, but is not COVID.
The intersection of these odds is even lower.
The rate at which people have long COVID symptoms has dramatically gone up since the start of the pandemic. You have an incredibly high hill that you have to climb to convince us that no, those symptoms are actually caused by some unkown unrelated mysterious thing that just happened to have affected all these people in the same week/month that they caught COVID.
If we release a bunch of tigers into the woods, and people going into the woods start mysteriously dissapearing, with the occasional discovery of a mutilated body covered in tiger shit, Occam's razor leads me to believe that the tigers probably have something to do with it. It's possible that there's another explanation, but you're going to have to do a lot of work to convince us of it. 'It could have been something else' doesn't meet that bar.
It's totally true that you can't just go by an individual person's account of what happened to them, but I think the evidence for the existence of long COVID goes beyond that.