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What's wrong with employees just voting with their feet, instead of mandating rules like this? If a company behaves horribly just go somewhere else

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Doesn't seem to happen in tech judging by Amazon horror stories about PIP culture and the like.

I think it's pretty easy for an average US citizen or green card holder engineer who gets pipped at Amazon to get hired elsewhere.

The people who really get screwed are the OPTs/H1-Bs who have a very short grace period to get a new job or leave the country.

Sure, but 1) it goes to show that tech workers won't necessarily "vote with their feet", 2) in the event of an industry-wide downturn, that ability to vote becomes far more limited.

Amazon pays software engineers very well (compared to software engineering jobs in general). Perhaps people don't vote with their feet because they like the money.

Amazon comp was entirely predicated on stock, wasn't it? Because they uniquely have a salary cap that's not particularly high.

https://www.levels.fyi/blog/amazon-salary-negotiation.html

It seems like there is more Amazon non-warehouse employees interest in unionizing now anyway:

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-layoffs-corporate-emp...

Not exactly - while the initial stock they grant vests on a 5/15/40/40 schedule, they also have a large cash "bonus" which "vests" monthly for the first two years. With their assumption of 15% stock growth per year, you should have equal TC per year for your first 4 years. Of course, assuming 15% annual stock growth is silly, but you can run the numbers however you want. The point is that compensation for the first two years is predominantly cash.

No? I've definitely heard stories that Amazon is having a harder time hiring people because many workers are churning out.

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