What is a tube amp? Why do audiophiles like it “better” than a solid state amp?
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And that is why AC/DC songs are in major keys.
My middle-aged back definitely prefers the recent advances.
Very different, and much more precise, engineering than the old bass cab I bought as a kid, which rolled on casters and seemingly had enough room inside for me to crawl into, and had time best described as “flabby.”
Distortion in a tube guitar amp is introduced in the preamp, the phase splitter (for push-pull designs), the power amp, the output transformer, and the speaker cone.
There's also some distortion introduced by amps with tube rectifiers, as high current draw causes B+ (plate/anode) voltage to drop and changes the transfer characteristics of the tubes.
This is why there's some disparagement of "master volume" tube amps that attenuate voltage before the power amp to get a distorted sound at lower volumes- they lose the phase splitter and power amp distortion. Whatever the electrical design, when amps aren't cranked, they lose speaker distortion. This is why physically small amps are popular in studios- they can be turned up to their own limits to get distortion without being as loud as stage amps.
"Hybrid" amps that use a tube preamp and a solid state power amp certainly have some tube distortion from the preamp, but because of circuit design differences and different tubes used in the power stage, it isn't identical to a full tube amp.
Not that it necessarily "needs" to be. Digital modeling amps are getting closer, perhaps even close "enough." Play equipment you like to play and get a sound that you like and the engineering details don't matter.
Audiophiles neither like nor dislike tubes vs solid state amps... historically, tube amps had better corner case behavior; usually the corner case being less distortion driving difficult to drive speakers and headphones.
This hasn't been relevant, mostly, for at least 15 years. The world's best amps have been built in the past decade and are solid state. The only reason to own tubes today is for a change of pace, not for any technical reason.
The perfect amp is a wire with gain, no matter the technology it uses.
Tube amps produce a lot of (not only harmonic) distortion, especially the cheap stuff. And then there are also various nonlinearities due to the inevitable transformers, tubes aging, mains hum, etc.
The problem is that musicians (and not only) were "raised" on this type of "sound". So they consider this to be the nominal, "correct" way how an amplifier is supposed to sound like - especially that one obscure box they got 40 years ago at a garage sale somewhere is the gold standard.
They don't know squat about harmonics, distortion etc, many barely understand that the blinking red light on the amp indicating clipping is not what one is supposed to see and not the signal level one is supposed to adjust the gain pot to.
But they then see that a clean solid state amplifier (or even a tube one with a lot of negative feedback and compensation) sounds different, thus it has to be the one that is "wrong" and "sounds bad".
That's where the myth about tubes sounding "better" comes from. It has little to do with actual measurable distortion value.
I agree audiophile stuff is full of nonsense but I guess when there are differences, even if one isn't objectively better or worse, it might be good to understand the differences and history behind them because sometimes that's the nature of the thing.
Also, I wonder why you care so much about "audiophiles".
Not true if you're a guitar player. (Of course, tube amp distortion can be modeled quite well digitally these days.)
This is the flip side of guitar nut arguments: people swear that they have to use their analog pedals using, as you did, qualitative adjectives like "harsh". But all they really mean is that they have a specific sound out of their rig that they can't find an audio software engineer to acceptably model for them. And to be fair: that's a valid point! Software engineering is expensive. But it's got nothing to do with the capabilities or behavior of the hardware.
In fact, I might one day buy a tube radio where the tubes do absolutely nothing to the sound ;-)
I did a kind of A/B test over several months between one of those audiophile Class-D amps that were the rage so many years ago and a simple single-ended tube amp that I had built from schematics.
Both sounded good to my ears when fired up. They were, for me, indistinguishable in sound quality.
However a funny thing happened after listening to the Class-D for weeks and then plugging the music source into the tube amp and firing it up: some indescribable "listening fatigue" just let go and was nowhere to be found with the tube output.
Like I say, I can't even put my finger on it, quantify it, but there was something just more calming about the sound reproduced by the tube amp.
Sure, not a blind test. And I have noted in the past a kind of bias I can have toward something I made myself (ha ha). But perhaps when the audiophiles start into some long diatribe about "even vs odd harmonics" there may be some subtle psychological effects they're poking around.
Regardless, I was sold from that point on. All my music listening around the house comes through my home-built tube amps and I am a happy listener.
It's very easy to convince yourself that something is helping. It's very common in audio production circles to have had the experience of working on, say, a snare track, tweaking EQ or whatever, and to convince yourself that you've improved it only to realise that the EQ is bypassed or you're on the wrong channel - basically you wiggle some knobs that make absolutely no difference to the sound but still hear a difference.
I'm pleased you've found something that you enjoy, as after all, that's the point - whether you chose something on sound quality terms or not is irrelevant (as you have already realised they sound basically identical). If it means you enjoy listening to music more, you've won!
Audio amplification for humans requires similar deviation away from 'purity' and engineered precision, we need distortions, nonlinearities, and other 'additives.'
Is this driven by the flawed nature of how our bodies capture and translate sound?
Is it inherent in how the human brain interprets these signals for the conscious mind?
Or does the answer lie somewhere in how music engages with our souls through all these steps?
A thousand flame wars will find no answer better than what the continued celebration of tube amplification demands; the devoted will abide no other. This truth drives a moment of respectful consideration of those who have endured the longest journey toward audio nirvana, for ignorance is not likely their weakness.
Now back to tube amps. People often say that tube amps add "warmth" right. So we can say that this warmth isn't actually there in the recording. It's an inaccuracy. But here's the thing, if everyone has a system that adds warmth, then mixes will take this into account. They will be mixed to reduce the warmth a little so it will sound just right when it's added back. The recording and the playback are designed with each other in mind.
But it's all just perception.
But audiophile equipment generally isn’t better than, say, Apple or Sony products. This is for the simple reason that none of those companies are large enough to afford actual R&D or product testing. What they are capable of doing is making more expensive products and lying to their users, which is why so many of them think they need a “better DAC” with “more effortless PRAT”.
But agreed on the audio. Hey, at least someone can make some money off something that's doing some better service for maintaining old technology than hawking gold-plated cables.
Some of this can be demonstrated though objective measurements, for instance bass extension into the sub-100 Hz range can be much better on audiophile equipment.
(Sony also makes some very high end headphones that few people are aware of)
My Anandas do sound good in general too, but the entire class of headphones isn’t technologically advanced at all. They don’t have consistent reproducible sound because different people have different head shapes, background noise levels, are wearing glasses… fancy drivers with more theoretical bass can’t make up for not having an ear seal.
Plus they look like you’re wearing football helmets on both ears.
(AirPods Max are the only product I know of that claims to do something about this. Though I don’t think they sound great, I do think noise cancelling closed headphones sound better than open audiophile ones in any reasonably noisy location.)
Digital is quicker to view (not necessarily print) and has the ability to change iso on each shot if necessary. Definitely an advantage for say a photojournalist who is on deadline and may have subjects in wildly different lighting only moments apart.
More corrections are also available out of the box vs at the enlarger, though of course a negative can be scanned (giving up at least some of film resolution advantage). I view that entire category as a crutch to fix photos that were not shot correctly in the first place. Where at one time thought was given before pressing the shutter, now there is a tendency to just snap away and hope one shot looks good or can be 'fixed' to do so (not the same thing as capturing multiple frames of high speed action).
Agree, but "perception" is A LOT. Taking digital media and making it look like film in an artistically skillful way is hard. Shooting in film and making it look good is hard too, in a different way, requiring different skills.
Two films come to mind. Both of them beautifully shot.
Tangerine (https://youtu.be/ALSwWTb88ZU) Was shot with an iPhone 5s-- and yes, there was a lot of work involved in post-production, but it was a deliberate decision. The directory, Sean Baker, later went on to shoot Red Rocket (https://youtu.be/Wfndmy-6e28) this time in 16mm film. Both films are amazing in terms of cinematography and visuals.
Licorice Pizza (https://www.kodak.com/en/motion/blog-post/licorice-pizza/). The director, Paul Thomas Anderson, exclusively works in film. This was a big-budget production with some A-list actors, he could have shot with whatever digital equipment he wanted but he chose 35mm. Whatever the case, the outcome was stunning.
At the end of the day, it comes down to choices the creators make for their workflow and which tools and techniques they've mastered. Is it "possible" for a fully digital A/V workstation to give the operator a level of control that blows away analog media? Of course. But what does that level of control actually mean? Endless mouse-clicks, sliders, drop-down menus, and application "plug-ins" and licenses? Unfortunately, yes. Not everyone is willing to do that.
1. Tube amp 2. Transistor amp 3. Transistor amp + noise mixed in
People on that show preferred (1) and (3).
I wonder if that show might be on YouTube today.
With the electric guitar, the tube amp is part of the classic form of the instrument, as it was known for half a century, and first came to be played. It's the physical instrument present on most of the classic recordings and which older players learned to play with.
This quest for authenticity, or whatever you want to call it, is surely psychological, and often, in my opinion, a bit silly. Marketing often plays on it, for sinister marketing reasons, sure. Still, when it comes to pianos (or violins or trumpets or whatever), making and using period-accurate instruments, in the way they were made historically, and played historically, is both rather popular as a hobby/art, and also a serious academic field. Why would the electric guitar be exempted?
Modern solid state amps can also distort the signal of electric guitars just the same as tubes
Yes. The class-D amp I got for $20 runs circles around anything that can be done in tube technology, just in terms of fidelity. But a musical instrument is not viewed purely from an engineering standpoint.
Using your piano example, the material you build the piano frame out of affects its resonance. Early pianos, not steel-framed, sound different. Even if we can capture this with a synth some day, the art of piano-making, the tools, physically making the musical instrument, will be an art and science worth preserving and practicing. Same is true for the electric guitar. And so part of that art and science, will involve tube amplifiers. Just as the study and making of pianos, involves the study and making of making wood vs. bronze vs. iron vs. steel frames. Even if most of us piano players just play on an electronic keyboard most of the time.
depends on the DAC's resolution
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A lot of professional guitarists (like Steve Vai but there are many others) rely on equipment from fractal audio. I am sure there are counter examples to this though.
Ultimately amps do have a certain sound based on physical placement and physical characteristics of the equipment used in the amp. But now you can capture all of that with amp modelers and then you do not need the amp anymore. It is an amazing time to be a guitar player.
Link to the hardware from Fractal (it is not cheap) https://www.fractalaudio.com/iii/