Conspiracy theory is just the news in 6 months.
Hell at this rate I’d hear somebody out if they said the moon is made of cheese.
What a time to be alive.
Hell at this rate I’d hear somebody out if they said the moon is made of cheese.
What a time to be alive.
Contrarians have this utterly weird propensity to demand the "official" or "mainstream" opinion be perfectly accurate, while holding absolutely no standards for the other side of the debate.
"Just asking questions", etc.
When it comes to the state, I believe the reason we require such broad free speech protections is precisely because perfection can never be attained, and the state holds an unfair advantage in force, and in law.
But it's just hyperbolic nonsense to consider nearly any private company, let alone one with such marginal reach as Twitter, as possessing such a monopoly on information that they have to be treated the same as the state.
And it's transparently ideological when I see someone demand perfection from non-state sources while championing alternatives with records far worse.
Literally a Strawman.
Leave the Strawman alone, you beat him up enough.
Not being the actual dumbest person in the room doesnt mean you are somehow done figuring stuff out. Treating this as a matter of binary sides overlooks the issue that there is no "reasonable default" to fall back on. Finding that position is the actual practical problem. Thats an iterative process of verification and reality truly doesnt care that you made out somebody dumber then yourself.
I said it in the other post, i find this to be an extremely difficult conversation. After all, how do you tell people in a constructive way to really consider their emotional maturity when it comes to this not at all being trivial problem.
Right. That's the problem.
By deciding what people (not just you) should or shouldnt think about you identified the problem, that people could be too dumb for that consideration and make mistakes, while blatantly ignoring that the same might not just apply to your decision as well, but that you are removing the fundamental solution to said problem. Verification.
Thats the problem. Not comprehending that the problem is more difficult that it seems and that the "easy" solution you propose has fundamental flaws that will result in catastrophic failure. Or worse, comprehending it but being overwhelmed and deciding to at least feel right regardless.
And unfortunately, i dont see a third option outside of said incompetence or said malice. I truly hope i am wrong because unfortunately there seem to be a lot of people embracing this stuff. But it also wouldnt be too surprising because talking about this gets awfully close to violating the board rules. Which would explain why this catastrophic idea can so easily spread.
No one owes explanations for the obvious.
My point is that you dont have the competence to determine what not to verify because doing so robs you of the ability to determine the implications. Which is commonly caused by a lack of emotional maturity to deal with this inherent problem of stupidity humans have. By still not wanting to think about it you accept all the problems you apparently now know exist and just ignore it in favor of a better self image. This is not an attack on personal shortcommings but something every human has to deal with.
And you didnt just make this decision personally, but think its a good idea to push this onto other people. That means "the problem" from your initial point is people trying to deal with a difficult problem you prefer to ignore and offer no substitute solution to while knowing how horrible the consequences will be. Put over the top, its people having the audacity to think about stuff that runs the risk of poking holes in your delusion once you hear about it.
I dont believe you actually mean to say this. This would be malice. Its screw reality and its consequences in favor of your feelings. It would be conscious solopsism.
Please tell me how i am wrong instead of coming up with stories about how you get to do it regardless. I truly want there to be a cooperative solution and i am really confident that it should be possible. We should be able to agree that figuring out reality is something we all have incentives to do that outweigh wanting to feel right.
I am very sorry that the posts are this long, but the shorter this gets, the more confrontational this sounds and the less likely useful progress is.
edit: I also wrote such a lengthy response so you hopefully realize what you just told the entire world with your personal details in your account info. Because this could qualify as consent for getting "patched" for a lack of a better term. Having you do that was not my intent.
To take the moon example, congratulations for figuring out its not made from actual Swiss cheese. Its a great first step. Unfortunately there isnt complete knowledge about everything you ever need to know about the moon attached to not believing it to be cheese. You having wrong or incomplete knowledge of the moon doesnt mean the moon is made from cheese. And people trying to communicate to you an angle you are missing can extremely easy be framed to sound like "moon is made up of Swiss cheese". Its using strawmen arguments to figure out reality instead of trying to steelmen people to figure out what they are looking at where they maybe overshot to deal with a problem you are unaware of.
You didnt just finish thinking by having determined some stuff to be stupid. You are not done. I get that you think this needs some means of simplification but reality doesnt care about what you think should or needs to be possible.