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Lol,EU fighting unnecessary waste and here we have people butthurt? Lol spud we literally regulate people for building shit products that are harmful in every other sector, health, food, you name it. Why should tech be any different? And yes your e-waste that's completely unnecessary just because your company wants to make shit decisions isn't acceptable. It's harmful and there's no reason why it should be allowed. Stoked the EU are doing this finally. Get wrecked crappy designers (looking at you apple).

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You’re cool with designers, e.g. Apple, shipping EU models that are less waterproof, bulkier, less reliable, and cost more? In the name of reducing e-waste?

And does your legal philosophy of “anything not explicitly allowed is forbidden” apply to other aspects of life?

All these laws remind me of the apocryphal tale of a legislature mandating the pi = 3.

Well folks seem to keep pushing the boundaries and pumping out crap that's wasteful, unrepairable and just shit designed to appease to some kids fishcher price kids toy aesthetic. Then yes. We need these laws. If your so thick we have to spell it out one by one a law at a time then so be it. I have no problem with this.

Thanks for showing true colors with the ad hom!

> You’re cool with designers, e.g. Apple, shipping EU models that are less waterproof, bulkier, less reliable, and cost more? In the name of reducing e-waste?

Regulations act as pressure. If this results in less waterproof devices and I as an user still want waterproof, I'll keep on looking for companies that do the best job under this constraint. That will further push the industry to figure out the replaceable battery + waterproof combo.

> https://amzn.eu/d/1CVHPKd

They seem to have no issues earning money offering a cheap smartphone (much cheaper than Apple), creating a waterproof smartphone with a user replaceable battery.

How can that be?

That's easy: they don't have >30% profit margins in hardware plus service upsells resulting in billions of USD in profit each quarter.

Less waterproof? Oh no, how will we all be able to continue diving with our iPhones? This is such a common trans-European tradition, I fail to see how we will ever adapt to this change.

There have been sufficiently waterproof devices with removable batteries. It's more of a pain to engineer but it can be done.

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