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Comment by dang | Hacker News Reader

Ok, we've changed the url https://www.fleetmanagementweekly.com/yes-warming-up-your-ca... to the thing it points to, which is longer if not better.

Edit: ok, that one (https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verif...) didn't work. Switching to the URL suggested in the comments below. Thanks!

This, from 2016, seems to be the original post and seems to be fairly well written, if surprising and controversial

Ok, we'll try that one - thanks!

I can’t access the updated link and just get:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verify..." on this server. Reference #18.51d1202.1671993608.7d094d83

Following the chain of links, I think this article is the original source: https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-idling-your-car-i... It's a much more detailed article, including some specific claims about the science.

Yes, this one is open and with more details that make some sense. Idling for 5-15 minutes is too long anyway, unless you have a 80’s car.

Changed to that one now. Thanks!

Getting access denied. Sorry dang, this is not a great way to spend Christmas (thanks for the ceaseless moderation!).

Nope, not actually better — keep clicking, and see my other comment. If you actually follow the links, you find the opposite opinion! Go Internet!