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Move to the US and get 5 per day!

Even better, outside of the illegitimate ones, if your role is at all applicable, Oracle sales reps will essentially love bomb you on a never ending basis and because their turnover is so high, you get a barrage of calls on any given day of irrelevant things. Honestly I wish the phone “app” didn’t exist. If it’s some you interact with a lot it’s very unlikely an unannounced phone call is what they’d go with.

Are you on the Do Not Call List? Have you tried asking Oracle to not call you again?

The DNC does not apply to companies you have a business relationship with - only cold calls.

I looked into using oracle cloud servers this year, but gave up after a day or so because the interface was bad.

They only called me once, because I hadn't used the account in a month.

They've only emailed me once since then.

I don't get why this is the case, surely there must be a huge majority that hates those calls and wants them to stop? Is there some sort of political lobbying that prevents effective laws from being passed?

I'd also imagine spam calls getting less effective when you get used to them.

But maybe that's not the case?

It’s actually a positive feedback cycleZ those who still answer the phone are more likely To be easy victims.

There is lobbying indeed, the leverage being the call-center jobs.

In France for example, this activity was under scrutiny for decades (2014: https://www.lemonde.fr/vie-quotidienne/article/2014/02/12/de..., 2022: https://www.francetvinfo.fr/internet/telephonie/demarchage-t...), and even if the law is now more restrictive than before : - no week-end call - calls from 10am to 1pm and 2pm to 8pm - you can be included in bloctel, a "do not call me list" it still leave room for this activity.

Almost all these jobs will probably be replaced by AI in a near future, so the main leverage will disappear and ...

That doesn't help offshore call centers dialing to you over VOIP. Different jurisdiction and difficult trace means almost no accountability. That's the problem in the US, plus our congress is of course, the best one money can buy.

Mine seem to come in waves. I haven't gotten any, or Google hasn't let any actually ring my phone, in a few days then there will be days with a half dozen.

Doesn't the DoNotCall register work any more?

Most of these calls come from illegitimate call centers running scams overseas now.

That and all the damn politicians… who of course exempted themselves

Yes. I occasionally get one labeled as from China.

That has not worked since 10+ years ago.

But I did stop getting so many spam calls in recent months, so I assume ATT or other phone service providers in the US have enabled some type of anti spam measure.

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