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Comment by ChuckNorris89 | Hacker News Reader

Tesla/Elon fans will tell you because human drivers also kill alot of people therefore we should also let robots kill people because as long as they statistically kill less people than human drivers they are therefore "safer", so it's fine to let them kill people as well, otherwise it's a double standard if only the human drivers are allowed to kill people and the product of their favorite mega corporation and meme lord is not allowed to kill just as many people while trying to learn how do drive.

So now you have humans and robots out to kill you on the streets. What a time to be alive.

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Is it not possible that driving is an inherently dangerous activity, and unless you don't move at all there is some risk of an accident?

In which case you are holding Tesla to an impossible standard, which we don't hold human drivers do.

We send human drivers to jail. That's not an Impossible standard.

That's a good argument to discourage both humans and robots from driving cars.

Jaywalking was invented as a crime to put the blame on the pedestrian rather than the car/driver. There was a huge lobby by automobile manufacturers to change the status quo and transfer liability.

Can you tell us what threshold for self-driving cars is allowable then? Half the rate of human drivers? One-tenth? And explain why they are expected to be better.

That sounds like a perfectly good argument unless you are challenging the premise that it's less likely to kill someone than a human driver?

Good summary of the facts.

Sounds like it’s not “safer”, it’s just safer.

Depends on the statistics you use to claim that they are "safer".

It's not so easy because money is fungible. Instead of buying a rich person gokart you could buy an F-150 which will protect you the old school way (with lots of mass and metal around you).

And have money to spare to order an Uber if you are too high/drunk to drive. And you can also select the Uber with the greatest mass/height and metal around you

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