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"Exclusive Uncensored Photo Sets", "Beautiful, Experienced Teachers"

Weird, I wouldn't have expected beauty would be a qualifier for teaching yoga. Nor would I have expected "uncensored photo sets" to be a dot point on an education site.

Unless.

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Like another poster said, this seems like more overpolicing to not get caught up by sesta/fosta. The site gives off a bunch of pornography red flags between its phrasing in the copy, and the fact that all of its teachers appear to be models and not just physically fit humans. If this government was willing to go after my business for supporting pornography, and I had to decide if this site would fall under the government's definition(I know it when I see it[1]), this would be a zero hesitation decision to bin as porn.

edit: adding on to their porn flags, their main splash page updates the image everytime you navigate to it. It appears to be entirely comprised of images of the top half of their female models showing neither their male models or any full yoga poses. This is the kind of tongue in cheek "were totally not engaging in that behavior you said wasn't allowed" setup that isn't going to convince the government you're regular non porn content

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

I can’t imagine saying with a straight face that the legality of nude videos would depend on how attractive (according to some standard) the people in the videos are.

Not exactly a new concept in law. Take pornography out of it and look at businesses like hooters who can require their waitresses to be attractive to because they are hiring “models” and not regular actors. Their level of attractiveness is explicitly changing the laws involved.

If it’s problematic for you take it up with the courts, these sorts of things were decided long before I was born

Your example isn’t at all analogous. Being a waiter doesn’t suddenly become illegal if you’re too attractive.

I don't think we have worldviews that overlap well enough to discuss this then. If you cant see where the logic is coming from, regardless of if you agree with the logic, then I can only point you towards the governments definition of obscenity I linked in my first comment and suggest you read on the legal theory from there.

This seems more like a disagreement about the basic meanings of words, not anything about worldview. In what way is this Hooters employment issue at all similar to this naked yoga issue?

Being hired for looks, not just ability?

Beauty is an indicator of health and fitness, so it's not at all surprising to me that it's so often a qualifier for teaching in fitness fields. That's not unique to naked yoga, I've never seen an ugly personal trainer.

> I've never seen an ugly personal trainer.

That's too general. "Ugly" has too many dimensions. For example, a lot of women would consider most of the latest "Mr. Olympia" contestants as grotesque and ugly. One could also be greatly fit and still have an extremely unattractive face.

Now, if you want to say that you've never seen a successful, out-of-shape personal trainer, I'd probably concede that. Being in-shape is marketing for the expertise you are taking payment for.

Umm.. I’ve seen quite a few look like a caveman with a head bulge.

Beauty is a philosophical question that depends on cultural values, so you can't make a general assumption out of it.

For example, 400 years ago small breasts are considered beauty. You can't say the same today and instead had turned 180 into "small boobs shame" among the youth.

Small sample, but I’ve had two personal trainers and both of them looked like a neanderthal had just been hit by a truck.

Yeah, I'll believe they're not selling sexuality the moment they throw a hairy 250 lb dude in there as an instructor.

I watched a trailer from the website. It may fill a niche, but to my female eye the website doesn't scream "exaggerated sexuality". It's more akin to nude art than to pornography.

What fraction of non-nude yoga videos are run by 250 lb dudes vs attractive women?

Sure but it's still not necessary for stripe to become the next morality police we have enough of those in Iran.

Unless people like beautiful content? Shelter doesn’t need to be beautiful either but weirdly people like looking at photos and videos of beautiful houses.

Unless? What?

am I only allowed to have sex if I'm married in a church you approve of?

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