It sure looks like an attempt to create one platform to rule them all:
The long-term goal seems to be to enable different factions to run the operating system of their choice... as a subsystem of Windows.
The long-term goal seems to be to enable different factions to run the operating system of their choice... as a subsystem of Windows.
Then they found it didn't work as well as people wanted in terms of filesystem performance, low level networking, and PCIe device access so they switched to the more modern integrated hardware virtual machine model which is what WSL2 and WSA use.
Originally Microsoft wanted WSA like functionality (then called Astoria) for Windows 10 mobile but then they found the bridge toolkits to be the easier/better approach and cancelled it until bringing it back for desktop all these years later.
How do you envision they could do it? Doesn't seem plausible to me, given the distributed nature of the development of Linux.
BTW, they actually tried:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
Just totally failed.
I don't think MS actually cares if Linux exists, if most people pay a Windows license fee to run it.
with my sample size of 1, if they added any extended functionality to WSL or WSA i wouldn't use it, i use that environment because it mimics the production environment I target, We wont be using WSL in production that would be Linux.
I don't see the use case for running Android on windows except for development and maybe a limited selection of apps. You wouldn't run WSA as a way to get the "locked down" benefits of Andoird on a desktop. Desktops also generally have far more limited sensors and other hardware features. I get Android on a phone because of the form factor, access to NFC, a flashlight, accelerometer sensors and so on Desktop can't have these.
Windows gets by business because of WSL, otherwise i would run Ubuntu or something, but windows is just less hassle for everything that isn't in the CLI (YRMV)
compatibility is not an EEE tactic. embracing alone is not anything other than embracing.
where is the extending and extinguishing of Linux? name ONE thing that is possible in WSL that is not possible without it. just one.
where is the extending and extinguishing of .net? of Yammer? of Teams? where are these extensions to Linux or Android? what's been extinguished?
You people really drank the kool-aid didn't you? Think for yourselves for once.
if you answer, I don't want rumors, I want facts. bring me pictures of spiderman or get the hell out of my office.
No personal attacks, please.
Personally, I wouldn't put it in certain terms like the GP has, but it is not out of the question for me.
> compatibility is not an EEE tactic. embracing alone is not anything other than embracing.
> where is the extending and extinguishing of Linux? name ONE thing that is possible in WSL that is not possible without it. just one.
> where is the extending and extinguishing of .net? of Yammer? of Teams? where are these extensions to Linux or Android? what's been extinguished?
You are aware that EEE is in /phases/, right? Embracing is just the first one.
> You people really drank the kool-aid didn't you? Think for yourselves for once.
Or maybe we just haven't forgotten history? In case you want to learn or refresh the memory:
- http://birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor.... - https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-v-microsoft-corporation-... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT (the patent wasn't released to the OIN until 2019)
got anything recent? no one ever cites anything recent. meanwhile, Google and Meta are doing nefarious stuff today and no one cares... behavior only mattered in the 1990s, I guess?
one might say that the logic here is twisty turny, but in truth people just don't like Microsoft, and they won't admit that they have a very strong bias against Microsoft. I would not even comment on this of people just admitted their bias. but all I see are references to things which are approaching 30 years old.
it's apparently supremely bad when MS does something in the 1990s but things that go on today are fine. Unless it's Microsoft...
Everyone has their eyes focused on Microsoft waiting for something that may never come, but absolutely sure it will come, while they are ignoring everything around them.
> No personal attacks, please.
wasn't a personal attack. people aren't stupid, to me, actions are stupid, and things people say are stupid. I was attacking the opinion as stated, not the person. "stupid is as stupid does."