Seattle woman can’t build housing without paying city $77k. Now she’s suing
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It's better if the city simply keeps everyone honest and tries to keep compliance costs as low as possible. Increase housing density where possible, while not listening to the NIMBYs.
The answer is here, people just don't want it.
The sad reality is that a lot of the people who shout the loudest about the problems of wealth and systemic inequality with their words, do very little or even the opposite with their actions.
There's probably similar psychology at play as to why it's common advice to not tell people about your personal goals. The act of proclaiming what you want to do gives you that little kick of dopamine that saps your motivation for actually doing it, making it less likely that you'll actually follow through. Waiting until after your accomplishment to share your success is much more effective.
In the case of moral virtue signalling, it seems like the act of proclaiming your virtue is much more likely to give you a feeling of moral license that makes you feel ok about acting immorally to serve your self interest.
In short, be suspicious of people who virtue signal too much, and judge them by their actions and results, not by their words or intent.
It seems like a complete waste of time to try to declare a political victory here.
They already need a highway expansion in Austin because of it
OTOH, Texas and Florida are both a fraction of a population compared to the sum of NY + CA + MA + IL.
By the way, even the states you listed (not nearly growing as fast as TX/FL) are still building more per capita than the NY / CA / MA / IL.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1240622/new-residential-...
Texas and Florida are the 2nd and 3rd most populous states. That is misleading because you're comparing 3 out of the top 6 most populous states with them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ...
California, especially the bay Area, is notorious for being anti-development. The landed class will furiously fight any attempt to build dense housing, to keep property prices high. Rent control exacerbates this as most residents have no incentive to solve the housing shortage since they aren't affected by price increases.
Washington, by contrast, prohibits rent control statewide. It's no coincidence I'm seeing far more construction in Seattle and it's suburbs than I did SF.
I’m just balking at the audacity of comparing Massachusetts to Texas and implying their comparable on the basis of their politics more so than their geography.
That is completely and totally wrong.
The land cost is BY FAR the biggest driver of housing cost in the California coastal cities.
The proof of this is that buying a house, completely demolishing it, and building a completely new house is not uncommon in California.
That demonstrates that everything except the land has a negative value.
The problem is that people want to live in the desirable costal cities. The only way that's going to happen is if the city gets more dense. Cities that allow for easy construction are better able to convert low density housing in desirable areas to high density housing to accommodate the growing demand.
The fact that buyers demolish shows that the cost of labor and materials is significantly less than the value of the land. "losing money on destroying the old house but prefer that location" === value of the land is higher than the cost of the rebuild.
In most real estate transactions where the home is clearly a tear down, it's priced in.
It seems like might have never viewed a property tax bill.
Here's my neighbor's house built in 2022 appraised values:
land: $465,000 improvements: $620,000
MA housing isn’t even particularly bad. I never paid more than $900 in rent.
When did you live in MA? You'd have to go over an hour west for that at this point.
With roommates but never sharing a bedroom
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That said, this also clearly sucks and is not fair. She is at least adding something that wasn't there before. So it makes no sense to pay more in taxes. If anything, it's kind of proving the value of a Land Value Tax.
But in this case the city assessing a luxury tax for such a setup seems pretty reasonable.
I am okay with a certain amount of gray area in the rental market, especially for informal or family situations. If these units ever hit the general market you can hit them with tighter rules later.
Again, in this case, she would not be exempt, she would pay a one time fee for the housing program.
If so, then yes. (Assuming it didn't fall under accessory dwelling unit rules.)
Doesn’t want to pay anything—submit for an exception, or pay the Hollywood price to do what she wants.
I don’t see what’s unfair. It would be unfair if she could only build the larger building, and was required to have affordable units—or do nothing.
What _sucks_ is that while her and her family were dealing with these restrictions, there has been a world pandemic, and the economy took a swing towards inflation and higher interest rates.
The family is in a worse spot than if they had paid the 77k upfront.
I’m wondering why their story is getting amplified. I guess this is a turn against cities trying to create regulations promoting affordable housing.
If you want to build a bunch of units on your property:
1. A certain percentage has to be rented at an affordable rate (for 75 years).
2. If they aren't you pay a 'fee' into an affordability fund based on how much you build.
The fact they the owner claims they want to 'rent' to their kids is a red herring IMO. She wants to build 4 market rate units on her property, and not designate any of them as affordable.
If you own the land you should be able to do what you want with it. If you want a single family home, that is fine. If you want a 10-plex, also fine. Cities are making development and renting as painful as possible then being shocked when people opt out of being landlords. If it is more desirable to have a craftsman and a dirtbike track than a multi unit building then the city's incentives are horribly skewed. One of those effectively prints money so we have to ask why someone isn't opting to do it. At the same time, it is their land and they should be able to use it how they wish.
Prices seem to have fallen very very recently. Hopefully the upzoning helps more.
The point of a Land Value Tax is that everyone gets taxed purely on the value of the land and none of the improvements. So adding more units would only decrease the per-unit tax you pay.
Seattle here is attempting the same thing in broad strokes by literally taxing underdevelopment - but it's clearly not as elegant of a solution
> Building a new four-unit structure
Seattle had a light up-zone a few years ago to allow all SF-zoned lots to add two ADUs (one detached and one attached). Going that route would make this a non-issue. The owner could build a unit for each child without paying any MHA fees.
FWIW, I would love to see the city up-zone across the board to allow multi-family on every residential lot, but that's not happening thanks to an unholy alliance of NIMBYs and anti-business zealots.
This is literally what the state is doing. They're loosening restrictions if you build affordable housing. They're not loosening restrictions across the board as the default would be to just build housing without any regard to affordability.
Luckily, that would still lead to affordable housing, because "just build housing" is what actually makes housing affordable.
It’s specious to think that just adding supply to the desirable metro areas like San Francisco, New York or Seattle would be enough to make housing affordable to teachers and lower paying jobs. You’d just get more unaffordable housing or have to somehow flood the market with so much inventory that they would no longer be a place where people want to live.
Adams has two options: Add two extra affordable units to her project and rent them at below-market rates to income-restricted tenants for 75 years, or pay a fee. "
Yeah... good intentions and all that.
That seems eminently reasonable. "Landlord plans $1m expansion of non affordable housing to help their family only" seems more reasonable to me.
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If you are building big enough to need to hit the affordable housing regs, then you should commit to either providing affordable housing OR pay to make sure someone else can.
This is a story about a landlord trying to avoid having to help their community.
Think of it this way - Single (wealthy) families are competing for the land because it is illegal for more than 1 family to live on the land. Multiple (not wealthy) families could be pooling their money and competing for the land. Which drives the property value up? I would love to have 10 median income families who pooled their money (500k/yr) bidding up my land value versus single (top 5%) households (250k/yr).