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Not a villain? Well he's utterly screwed his employees and broken employment law in multiple countries by not giving proper notice or consulting on redundancies, but hey who gives a shit about workers rights? Not you obviously.

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Let’s not forget calling a man a pedo in a public tantrum AB and advocating for prosecuting Fauci among a litany of terrible anti worker positions.

Assholes can do good things. I just don’t get why we can’t call them assholes

FWIW, he has called two people paedophiles, an ex twitter employ, and a diver. The ex employee left his home as he received death threats.

By all means, I am holding Elon responsible for this. Here is the reasoning:

1. Either he is too stupid to understand the power he yields, and therefore should not yield it, or

2. He knows and does not care about anyone other than Elon, or

3. He knows and did it on purpose.

Hanlon's razor says 1, Occam's razor says 2. My priors say 1 is not possible, he can't be that stupid. I hope that he is not that vindictive for 3 to be true.

The former Twitter head of trust and safety Elon called pedo in his PhD thesis argued grindr should accommodate underage queer youth on their platform.

Arguably, that’s creepy. Also, he did not act upon child porn on Twitter while as the Twitter files show he was perfectly capable of acting upon legal speech.

> Also, he did not act upon child porn on Twitter while as the Twitter files show he was perfectly capable of acting upon legal speech.

Did the twitter files contain info about active Honeypots?

The Twitter files did not expose child porn acccounts that should have been banned, at least as far as I am aware, it’s the ease with which Elon has banned child porn accounts afterwards that showed how easy this was to do.

Twitter former head of Trust and Safety seems like a queer theorist. Queer theory, in direct opposition to the gay civil rights movement, from the first 1984 essay “Thinking Sex” by Gayle Rubin argued for normalizing “man boy love” as in pedophilia [1].

How queer activism build upon queer theory intersect with antifa activism may be why so much of Twitter antifa was involved in child porn and was banned for it.

[1] https://sites.middlebury.edu/sexandsociety/files/2015/01/Rub...

No he's rich, so he is just "eccentric". What a sellout.

That's one of the rules I learned long ago. When you're rich enough, you're not crazy, you're "eccentric".

Yup, it's exactly that deference that gives people like Musk a permission structure to thrive as sociopaths. pg is part of the problem.

Leaders need to have enough integrity and humility to admit when they're wrong. Giving them a pass for being "eccentric" denies them opportunity for self-correction.

You don't need to give notice as long as you give proper severance pay.

In which country? Different countries have different legal regimes, and, I realise this is shocking for many, the USA is not the world and Twitter has a presence in multiple countries and is bound by the laws of those countries.

I am fine with this actually. It is not Amazon warehouse workers we are talking about. These people were highly paid and Twitter seems to run just fine without them. FAANG can probably get rid of 70% of the bloat.

Elon did give them 3 months severence which is quite amazing.

Elon is literally trying to deny the severance packages he promised to give. How is this amazing?

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/musk-brings-spac...

If this is true that that's inexclusable and shitty. Still legal(?), but not ethical. Looks like the they're being challenged in the court.

Whether firing was done ethically or not, I still think that Twitter was bloated af and needed trimming. The macroeconomic conditions led to a huge hiring spree for last 8 years of 0% interest rates. We fucked around in the silicon valley and we are about to find out.

Overall, on a national/GDP scale, we can use these employees for betterment of other things than wasting their time at FAANG/Twitter. I'd like to see 1000 lean and mean companies than 10 bloated FAANGs.

That's just, like, your opinion. What matters here is employees were fired on extremely arbitrary grounds, then had their labour rights infringed upon.

> I am fine with this actually

Yeah when people show you who they are, believe them.

I’m guessing you haven’t been keeping up with the news. 2FA not working for some, countries missing from account recovery process, axes Twitter Spaces after being criticized by a journalist, and last bit not least…he seems to have decided he will not pay severance.

Some of them are, but even at Twitter not everyone is a highly paid dev and those people have been fired as well. Let's not even go I to the ridiculousness of expecting people to sacrifice their health and wellbeing by being a hardcore worker for the further enrichment of one of the world's richest men.

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