Hacker News Reader

Comment by rosnd | Hacker News Reader

> You clearly have no idea what this actually is or how it works, you’re just looking for reasons to defend Musk. Bizarrely

What? Where am I defending Musk? You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with the clown. I haven't even mentioned the guy!

Unlike you, I don't give a shit about the guy. I'm just an European aircraft owner who's not a fan of these websites.

>There is no PII in these transmissions.

>To “make a case” for something means to provide a persuasive argument for it. If I had meant pursuing a lawsuit I’d have said so.

Are you kidding? Mere pictures of license plates associated with timestamps have been found to be covered by GDPR, perfectly analogous to what's being discussed here.

http://enforcementtracker.com/ETid-851

Instead of car license plates, we have tail numbers and ICAO addresses. That's the only difference.

View on HN

Private cars have always been treated differently to private aircraft in US, UK, and EU law. So, no, it’s not analogous.

Nobody would even contemplate a public registry of car owners, for instance, but all of those countries maintain one for aircraft.

I’ve seen multiple attempts to make the same argument you are by disgruntled private aircraft owners every now and then. None have succeeded in any official venue.

>Nobody would even contemplate a public registry of car owners, for instance, but all of those countries maintain one for aircraft.

Are you joking? Lots of EU countries have had this, and still do.

For example in Finland, https://www.traficom.fi/en/services/vehicle-data-and-tax-pay...

In Sweden you can text the cars registration plate to 72503 and get the cars owners info.

In Norway you can look up car owners by registration plate or VIN https://www.vegvesen.no/en/dinside/kjoretoy/finn-eier-og-kjo...

In Portugal anyone can request the registration certificate from the IRN, that contains the owners information.

The governments aren't bound by GDPR and can totally do this, but as a private party it would generally be illegal for you to scrape this data.

>I’ve seen multiple attempts to make the same argument you are by disgruntled private aircraft owners every now and then. None have succeeded in any official venue.

Same is true of literally all GDPR violations, we've only just introduced these laws and catching up on the enforcement backlog will take decades.

Not only that, but most governments are doing a very shit job funding the enforcement authorities.

The obvious solution will be to allow impacted individuals to litigate GDPR violations by themselves.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com