It is turning HN into another social media circus - sucking all energy, joy, mental bandwidth from other things here.
All I am asking for is to let it go and not pay much attention to EM related stories for some time. They are precisely to elucidate a dopamine reaction and are no longer constructive.
[0] I understand the irony about talking about not asking to talk about it. One way to go about is to not comment to this thread.
This whole saga lays bare one of the big issues with big centralized tech that probably very few people saw coming prior to this acquisition, it is the largest such disaster since the collapse of Digg and MySpace, it is happening at breakneck speed and has the potential to do serious real world harm.
For a tech story on HN it is as relevant as can be.
>> If it does not bother you then simply ignore the links and don't add to them.
It is not so much as doesn't bother me as it is blindingly obvious and we are playing the game he wants to play by responding. Something something wrestling in the mud with something .... We have been here before.
He is in a very tight spot - over leveraged, lawsuits, losing billions, might lose control of Tesla, it's losing valuation and customers as others catch up and the shine wears off. Spacex is still sane and valuable - hence the talk of IPO. The only way out for him is to manufacture outrage. He tried to do it with Apple and that is why Tim Cook did not engage with him.
Why people don't realize that you cannot discuss these issues without separating it from the cult of his personality. There won't be any coherent discussion when that is involved - just mud wrestling. And he knows that.
>> This whole saga lays bare one of the big issues with big centralized tech that probably very few people saw coming prior to this acquisition.
Forgive me but that is very incorrect. People in tech have been talking,worried, disappointed about it. That ship has sailed a long time ago.
Anyways, I appreciate those who understood and did not comment.
These are major events and I might want to discuss with the HN crowd. I want to see how this unfolds good or bad and there are lessons to be learned. If you are bothered by it you can just scroll past anything about Tesla/Twitter/SpaceX/Musk?
I get 0 dopamine from learning that Twitter is banning journalists.
Non-left leaning journalists and politicians have been permabanned for much less and many, for no reason at all (as per the leaks).
It's disingenuous to suddenly care about 'free speech' from the same group that has been colluding with the government for the past 5+ years to silence all political opposition and anyone they didn't like.
There was no private information. There was no collusion.
The only person who’s definition of free speech that keeps changing is Elon Musk.
Edit: Never mind, I read your posts again: They were sharing private information regarding his private jet location
This information IS NOT PRIVATE. I literally just looked up and Musk even has private pilots license. You can find who owns what planes and get their numbers.
It also looks like nobody was willing to sign their name to a police report regarding the supposed stalking incident. And then in a snit he blocks numerous real journalists reporting on when and whether such an incident occurred.
"Thin skinned narcissist buys criticism factory" is proving to be the most elegant and predictive summation of what's happening.
Good discussions happen here because people here understand things like Elon's unusually large percentage of tesla shares pledged against loans. This is where people have informed opinions about his other big bets, like Starship and Full Self Driving. This is where you will find the best predictions regarding when his Twitter adventure becomes unsustainable.
While I think all this attention is exactly what EM wants and would play into his hands if he was a true 4D genius, I don’t think he is. But this is an ideological crusade with big outcomes so it’s hard to figure out what the right path is.
Twitter was atrocious to use even before it was bought by Elon Musk. Without e.g. Nitter it was (and still is) even unusable to anybody not signed up and signed in.
"From the last 90 submissions there seem to be >5% about Elon / Twitter. Why is everybody submissing stuff about that?" this has to be a joke. A major tech company is taking some insane actions, laying off employees, saying Twitter now allows free speech then banning journalists......ITS A POPULAR TOPIC, hence, the submissions.
IMO if Meta, Alphabet, Amazon, Uber, Tesla, SpaceX, Microsoft, Apple, Netflix, Intel, or any other big company pulls the plug it would affect the general public more than Twitter going offline.
Of couse it would be very bad for the employees and their families, but most consumers of the service would just move on.
;-)