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> the government should coerce everyone into making the correct medical decision by barring them from employment or access to private establishments.

But... the government has been doing that for decades and decades, since the very invention of the vaccine! Why is that "The Issue" when there's suddenly a pandemic and it's important, vs. when you needed to show your vaccination records to join the military or go to school in the 90's or whatever?

You see that the concern you're showing seems, to those of us on the other side, maybe a little insincere?

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What about my position seems insincere to you?

You see no philosophical difference between the government mandating vaccination records for schools and public institutions like the military vs. them mandating vaccination records for private establishments such as gyms, irrespective of the wishes of the owners of those establishments?

Should the government have the right to mandate vaccination records for entry to a private home, irrespective of the wishes of the homeowner?

The government has the right (and I'd argue, the duty) to quarantine people with diseases that are both contagious and dangerous if that's the best way to keep them from harming others. More details here: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantin...

AIDS/HIV sufferers would like a word with you.

Speaking of which, Fauci's early statements on AIDS in the initial outbreak were interesting.

Your theory is that the best way to prevent AIDS deaths is quarantining people? That seems extreme.

Regardless, it's not one of the diseases listed on the linked page, and it's very different in nature than the ones there, so that sounds like a red herring to me.

WTH? No. How can you get such a meaning from that. It's the opposite!

You were the only one here suggesting people with HIV were relevant to quarantining. So since neither I nor the CDC thought that was a good idea, then either you did or it was a straw man.

Pandemics are not a private issue. It's similar to a war. It can kill a significant percent of the population and it requires collective action to stop it.

The "vaccine mandates" that have been around since the 90s have been relatively weak or non-existent, via any number of possible exemptions.

Perhaps the military had some say but it's relatively easy to not accidentally enlist.

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