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https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ addresses your first question. The tl;dr is "probably not" as htmx is not really designed to handle complex browser-based UIs, but I have seen people in this thread and elsewhere discuss more complex use cases, so YMMV.

https://htmx.org/essays/a-real-world-react-to-htmx-port/ is about porting a serious production Django application from React to htmx.

If you hate SPAs and are chafing against Vue for building your app, it's probably worth considering if your app absolutely needs to be a JS/frontend-heavy product, or if it would be viable using a more traditional HTML+AJAX design.

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After going through a fever swamp project involving React, I am definitely in the camp of getting back to basics.

SvelteKit just hit 1.0. Out of all the 'modern' meta frameworks, it's the one that feels most like just writing HTML.

I'm not sure why you're posting this on a thread about HTMX. HTMX is almost certainly more like "just writing HTML"

Svelte lets you keep HTML, JS, and CSS all together, so that's nice, but it's typical use case involves writing a fair bit of Javascript/Typescript

Wait till you end up on a fever swamp project involving templated HTML generation. Or even a fever swamp project involving jQuery.

I’ve built those sorts of apps for 20+ years. For me, the Rails / Flask type approach is much easier to work with.

I invite you to work on a Java Server Faces project sometime. Or anything with "Portlets".

Anything you have 20 years of experience with is going to be pretty easy for you, no surprise there.

Any sufficiently complex state is going to develop edge cases that your framework of choice is going to develop sharp edges.

The question is then: has some other developer provided a useful salve/balme to this?

Highly recommend the post and video mentioned above! The SaaS application shown in the video is non-trivial and appears to be very well done using htmx. Worth a close study https://htmx.org/essays/a-real-world-react-to-htmx-port/

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