Tesla: Our ‘failure’ to make actual self-driving cars ‘is not fraud’

> Tesla also argued too much time had elapsed since the cars were purchased and that the plaintiffs hadn’t really been harmed by the fact the cars never drove themselves, despite the system being called “Full Self-Driving” and costing some owners $15,000.

So because Tesla has lied for long enough and people believed the lies, Tesla is now blameless? That's one hell of an argument.

No but an argument can be made that their marketing was.

Why is selling $15k “Fully self driving” capability not fraud? It’s not fully self driving. If they charged more for “fully battery powered” but it had a gas engine that would also be fraud.

I have a feeling that if Musk didn’t already have tens of billions he would be in the same position as Elizabeth Holmes.

previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33933802

I said it wasnt going to happen but the hype beasts needed it to be true so bad. I dont think he is totally to blame.