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Show me one website that today really works without javascript.

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I've been surfing without javascript since 2015. Most websites continue to work fine without it (though some aesthetic breakage is pretty standard). About 25% of sites become unusable, usually due to some poorly implemented cookie consent popup. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by simply refusing to patronize these sites. I will selectively turn JS on in some specific cases where dynamic content is required to deliver the value prop.

> Most websites continue to work fine without it

> About 25% of sites become unusable

These two statements seem pretty contradictory. 75% feels like a low threshold for "most."

Most is more than half.

In casual conversation, I would never interpret most as being solely more than half. However, it seems like perhaps most people agree with you :)

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/55920/is-most-eq...

In my entirely casual understanding of English most means the set that has more members than any other. When the comparison is binary (sites that work vs sites that don't) then "more than half" is both necessary and sufficient as a definition.

When comparing more than two options most could be significantly less than half (e.g. if I have two red balls, and one ball each of blue, purple, green, orange, pink, and yellow, then the color I have the most of is red, despite representing only one quarter of the total balls.)

That said, any attribute attaining more than half of the pie must be most.

In retrospect, the never in my previous comment was certainly an overstatement. While I agree with your reasoning, there is often a distinction between technically correct use of language, and what the hearer is likely to understand from what is said.

Same, I even wrote a chrome extension to enable js on the current domain using a keyboard shortcut; but it has gotten to be more of a pain especially on landing pages.

Even JS-heavy websites are moving towards being usable without Javascript with server side rendering.

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