What if you delete the “Program Files” folder in Windows? [video]
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Now I know why.
https://i.imgur.com/iVNVleR.jpg
The media I copied from took up 28x 3.5" HD floppy disks. It's possible they were copied from what was originally a CD-ROM. I don't remember clearly anymore.
Note: I'm not trying to refute or correct your 13-disk figure, which was clearly a different installation set, and likely original Windows 95 rather than my OSR2, which came out around 1997.
[0] https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050819-10/?p=34....
Edit: just checked in Google. Win95 was just 13 floppies. But you had MS Office and other software that was additional floppies to install.
We'll, still is, but in high school too.
Much easier these days with virtualization and COW images.
So potentially such drinking game could last longer than booze on hands.
xcopy /h/e/c/k/r/y c:\windows\system32\ c:\sys32\
attrib +h c:\sys32\
From a repair boot disk xcopy /h/e/c/k/r/y c:\sys32\ c:\windows\system32\
attrib -h c:\windows\system32\i installed windows 98 so many times i still remember the pirated serial number k4hvd-q9tj9-6crx9-c9g68-qr2d3
and then cdc's bo2k came out and everything changed!
or something like that :-)
It makes you wonder how the thing is built. Like rather than modifying the code, Windows 11 is like a service that run on top of 10 and modifies a few UI things near the end of the startup process. Was that just some kind of hack due to time constraints? Or is the Windows codebase really that much of a delicate ecosystem when it comes to not breaking legacy software so they couldn't even modify the taskbar or file explorer without wrecking something?
The Shell team was trying to push this same new UI during my whole time at Msft, with at least three cancelled attempts that I was aware of even from an IC perspective. By the end the embarrassment was contagious.
[0] Plus Edge, as part of the same vestigial business unit. This explains the central position of advertising in the reskin, because Edge in all of its forms was always meant to drive ad revenue. That is the distinct business priority I mentioned earlier, which sets this organization apart from Windows (NT,win32,etc.) development proper, which was shifted to Azure.
In what sense?
From what I've seen, there's been virtually no development of Windows for Azure. Most of its features are simply being dropped on the floor and are being replaced wholesale by things that aren't that integrated.
Yeah, W11 doesn't support that. If you do some digging you'll find MS claiming it's a large technical lift that they have no current plans to do.
What does this mean with regards to your question? Not much. But that regression in functionality, in an area that every other OS I use supports and has supported for years, definitely suggests the thing is a hack. In my humble uninformed opinion.
98/2000 were great, ME wasn't, XP was great, Vista was awful, 7 was great, 8 was really awful, 10 is excellent, 11 is therefore almost certainly one to skip.
I'm kind of surprised so many people are installing Windows 11, given the history (and the fact that it doesn't support common CPUs like the Intel i5). I'll just wait for W12.
Windows 11 also supports i5s...It just doesn't support i5s from 6 years ago, nor i7s from then.
Kind of, yes, but also kind of no.
> 98/2000 were great, ME wasn't, XP was great, Vista was awful, 7 was great, 8 was really awful, 10 is excellent, 11 is therefore almost certainly one to skip.
Actually, AFAICS under the top-layer gloss of the shell W2K, XP, Vista, and W7 were all pretty much NT4. As long as you set "Use Windows 2000 UI" or whatever the option may have been called in the Control Panel, you were golden...
Except that some UI-tweaking options were beginning to disappear from Vista or W7 onwards. You could still set your Window Border Width to 0 (in stead of the GUI control minimum of 1) in the Registry, for example -- but if you then changed some other UI element setting in the GUI control, the width got reset to 1, so you had to reapply your Registry hack after each change.
But if you're referring to lack of official support for 9th gen and older CPUs, then it is indeed a pain in the butt. Plenty of valid computers losing official support because reasons is a travesty, but at least W10 is still getting updates for a while I guess? FWIW I have a PC with an i7-7700 and no TPM running W11 for the heck of it, and it runs fine, but it wasn't happy about it. This is just the TV PC, so nothing critical; I wouldn't do this on anything even remotely important.
But it's a good enough reason not to jump to an 'off' release. Why bother going to all the trouble of installing something you don't even want, when it gives you the easy out of claiming it's incapable of running?
Still annoying that they blacklisted perfectly serviceable hardware that has years of life left. I'm not a fan of the "everything's disposable, programmed obsolescence" stuff. And I know these CPUs are still being sold and used (because they are still plenty usable and can meet almost everyone's needs).
Docs: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-t...
I am imagining the dire warning next to this prompt. Don't rewire the position of the taskbar or your computer just might catch a virus.
I am not surprised - I feel like I was marveling over some similar ODBC dialog back in 2009.
The mobile ecosystem kept changing and taking you into new experiences (even before smartphones). Meanwhile, a Windows desktop never felt like something new. Just a layer of paint over the old creaky house.
I even remember a 'smartphone' of sorts I had before android was a thing, which run windows phone: They literally shoved the desktop version there, I remember not being able to click buttons even with a stylus because the ui was so small for the device. The most popular app was some weird dragon themed overlay that, lo and behold, gave it finger-sized buttons.
Well. There was plenty of "new" UI enhancements over the years which I resisted as much as possible. Imagine a meme of Garth from Wayne's World, "We fear change..."
I always hated the more smooth and colorful Windows XP theme. Computers back then were resource constrained enough that you'd notice the fact that it wasn't "free". It wasn't until Windows 10 that I stopped trying to make the shell look as much like Win2k as possible. The extra UI eye candy on modern systems is as near as matters "free" now, as long as you have plenty of RAM.
Now I am just trying to make Windows 11 look as much like Windows 10 as possible.
I'm not sure there's much "eye candy" in modern UI anymore, given the regression to completely flat, sometimes even borderless UI elements starting in Win8.
Same. Start11 goes a long way, but still lots of annoying stuff in W11.
It was pretty late in the game. I suppose 2 service packs and a couple of generations of hardware improvements helped.
You can even see the old one show up for a fraction of a second before the new one takes its place, and as further evidence, the trick to revert to the old one is to prevent the COM object of the new one from loading and replacing it:
https://pureinfotech.com/bring-back-classic-context-menu-win...
(For some inexplicable reason, many of the sites that show you how to revert it say the new one is an "improved experience". If it was, why would people be reading articles about how to revert it?)
This is speculation but I would guess that MS didn't want to waste all of the design work that went into Windows 10X, so they ported the new UI over to Windows 10 and used the opportunity to bump up the OS minimum requirements and drop 32-bit support. This would explain why Windows 11 feels like a bunch of junk built on top of Windows 10.
Windows boots from some DOS and File I/O BIOS interrupts.
Prior to Windows Vista the real mode code in the MBR loads NTLDR[0] which switches to protected mode and runs osloader.exe to boot the kernel. Post-Vista this is handled by the BOOTMGR[1] bootloader.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTLDR
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booting_process_of_Windows_NT_...
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS_API
Games like Doom still run on Windows because of this DOS virtualization.
It was so lean, fast and stable that I never used anything else until the day XP had some drivers that were absolutely necessary to use my desktop. 99% of low level crashes would just pop up a notification and nothing more, it was insane.
It's also how our brains work. Existing parts of the brain remain, they just get overridden here and there by new layers added on. Sometimes the original rat brain takes over. If you've ever gone into a blind rage, for example, that's the rat brain asserting itself.
No one really knows, and Cutler won't say or doesn't know, himself.
You can have continued progress without choosing the off-release to fist your consumers.
FreeBSD does another approach, where user-installed packages go to /usr/local and don't get intermixed with the base operating system.
For those interested in the how anyway: You'd boot into a liveCD, Chroot into the installs root folder, and apt-get python2.7. If removing python breaks apt there's probably some flag to apt-get to get it to poke at a not-root folder you could use. Worst case you copy the python install from the liveCD, reboot, and then fix python from the booted system using a now-working apt.
First, my requirements: what I need of an OS is a file launcher for my apps and a means of access to my files and not much else. I even consider networking and TCP etc. additional to my basic requirements—yes, I require them, but they ought to take the form of a separate installable application which I should be able to select from a range of similar products. I have no control over developers who develop apps for Win32/64 APIs so if I want to use their applications then I'm usually obliged to use MS Windows—and that's the problem—I'm forced to hack Windows as Microsoft puts hundreds of roadblocks in my way and makes it almost impossible for me to both achieve a minimum system optimized for my requirements and to stop the company spying on me or selling my personal data.
I've never been happy with just Administrator rights as it's too restrictive, to hack Windows properly I want superuser rights, and to achieve at least some aspects of it, I'll sometimes go to the trouble of deleting unnecessary Windows features holus-bolus and or nuking or mutilating Microsoft's constant and increasing roadblocks that attempt me from doing so. Sometimes my efforts are very successful, other times not.
The trouble is, for me an operating system is only a means to an end (I've little interest in the workings of Microsoft's proprietary code as its forever changing and I've too few resources to be fully proficient and constantly up-to-date year after year). This poses a dilemma, as (a) I often need a hack in a hurry, (b) I don't have the time or sufficient knowledge to spend ages reverse engineering/disassembling the code, and (c), as there is usually precious little really useful information about what I'm trying to achieve available on the internet, my attempts to achieve them are often by brute force and brutal (BTW, I'm never worried about crashing the OS as I can stream it from a backup in minutes and no data is lost as anything of importance is stored on separate drives).
This is a huge subject of which not much appears on the Web, that's why this story's video is important even though it's very superficial and tells us very little of what we actually need to know to do the job properly. It seems to me that much of what I'm about to mention doesn't get mentioned because either websites are either scared of publishing stuff that's highly likely to end up producing an irreversible crash or BSOD and or that those who discover truly powerful ways of taming Windows deliberately do not tell others (knowledge is power after all).
What follows is just a very short bullet list of ideas and things I do to give the flavor and it's far from complete (my notes on how I modify Windows for my own use extends to many hundreds of pages). Moreover, what I mention here does not extend to every Windows installation I do (they all have different uses and the need for integrity, security etc. varies with each installation). If anyone has any ideas, links to hack sites etc. then I'd be most grateful to hear from you.
1. First, although the Dark Web is likely to have much more sophisticated solutions that I'd really like to know about I don't go there for answers—certainly not so in recent years—for all the obvious reasons.
2. One thing that's obvious from the video is that the later versions of Windows 10 and 11 are much more solid operating systems than earlier ones, a BSOD on say Windows 10 is much less likely than on Windows 7. The video shows us that and it's also my own experience (whilst I only use Win 7 I've spent time attempting to hack later ones including Win 10 (but not 11) to the extent that I would consider them suitable to use (at this point I still consider it unusable).
What's important here however is that whilst Windows 10 and up have more inbuilt Microsoft trash the fact that the basic operating system (its core) is now much more solid means that users can hack it with much less chance of total failure (the video clearly shows that). Remember, years ago Mark Russinovich made the comment that the essential Windows core files only amount to some 40 to 60MB, so I reckon all the rest is fair game for serious hacking. With that in mind we really need to ask how the fuck can a full version of Windows amount to an enormous 7 gigabytes or so (when one thinks about it, it truly is outrageous—so is the fact that we users are so acquiescent in complying with Microsoft and letting it get away with subjecting us to so much crap).
3. The video shows the problem of deleting both directories and files because the operating system locks them. Anyone who remembers the lack of adequate file/network locking in the '80s will recall all the effort that went into bootstrapping them to ensure that locked files cannot be casually unlocked. Unfortunately, whilst clearly important for stability, it can, at other times, be a curse such as when one's trying to delete some feature that Microsoft does not want you to remove. Of course, file and directory permissions play a big hand in this too. (I've many ideas for inventive hackers on how file-locking ought to be hacked.)
This used to drive me mad until I found a quick, albeit dirty, solution. If you want to delete Windows directories or files locked by either file locking or permissions then boot up a Linux disk or Linux utility such as Parted Magic and use its file manager. Problem solved, we can now delete anything at will. When I was testing Windows 10 I deleted great swathes of files and directories and was essentially able to remove all the useless add-ons and utilities without affecting the stability of operating system in the slightest. This way, I even made many hacks to the desktop, some with considerable success, others not (I've more to do on this when I've time). I could provide much more info about it but obviously I can't do so here. That's not to say I'm very knowledgeable, in fact I know much less than I ought to know about it, and info from others about which Windows file does what and what the consequences are of deleting it, etc. would be very useful to know.
4. This brings me to the need for resources. In the past there were re-compilations of Windows CDs in which much of the dross had been removed and key setup changes made. This was a quick way of cleaning up much of Windows in advance of it being installed. I've not seen any of these disks for Windows 10 (although I've not looked of late), does anyone know what the status of such CDs is?
What's needed for the game and adventurous like me is a dedicated Website that lists all these super-hacks together with info and user experiences. If anyone knows of any then please let me know. Here, I'm referring to sites that are likely to be headed with words to the effect 'Don't proceed further with this website if you are worried that taking our advice may brick your Windows OS', after all sites dedicated to rooting Android phones are full of such warnings.
Such sites would also provide hacks such as how to change 'stubborn' permissions and unlock files (and advise which files the invaluable tool Unlocker cannot unlock and why it cannot do so—that said, I couldn't live with Unlocker, every Windows user ought to install it)! Similarly, we need a Windows 10 version of the now-defunct and once invaluable tool X-Setup Pro, it was invaluable because it actually showed the actual registry patches/hacks before it applied them (and the app had many hundreds of such useful patches builtin).
I could go on as there's much more but it'll have to for now.
Edit: the video presenter shows surprise that the Windows 11 user interface is built upon Windows 10 UI. This I did not know but I am not at all surprised as I do know that Microsoft has been up to these tricks since at least Windows 7. With Windows 7 Microsoft eliminated Quick Launch from the TaskBar but with a little effort it was easily brought back (I still use it, it's one of the first mods I do to a Win 7 installation).
What I find so very damn annoying about this finding is that the Win 10 UI is alive and well and hidden within the Win 11 one. Thus, there is absolutely no reason why users should not be able to select a UI from an older (or previous version) when upgrading (here users should be able to retain the Win 10 UI). Clearly, this is only bloody-mindedness on Microsoft's part that they cannot do so. Think back to Windows 8 and Metro: imagine how much trouble Microsoft could have avoided if users who hated Metro could have simply selected/kept the Windows 7 UI.
That this was not possible because of an internal Microsoft policy decision tells us much about its corporate strategy. I've claimed for years that Microsoft's policy of forcing disruptive change onto users without option is both deliberate and authoritarian. Unfortunately, this deliberate tactic of 'Disruption' is much of the reason for why there's so much trouble on the internet now. Simply, these arrogant bastards think they know it all when often they haven't a bloody clue.
OK, I'll give my mom in law my AMD 3700X and install Windows 11 on that one instead (and I'll buy myself a 7700X). Same thing: "Hardware not supported by Windows 11'. WTF. That 3700X is a recent machine. And the error message it totaly uninformative: it just says "hardware not supported".
Well, good thing a few years ago I made her switch her SME to Google Workspace / GSuite only. She and her employees are doing everything from the paid version of GSuite (something like 50 EUR / employee per year).
Guess what's installing atm on that 3700X for my mother in law? Ubuntu.
I dd'ed the .iso and the install starts just fine.
It's insane: you want to give 145 EUR to Microsoft for their ad-ridden and keylogger infested spyware of an OS but they don't let you. Unhelpful error message. Instead of saying what is not supported, they just say: "Hardware not supported".
So now it's going to be Ubuntu everywhere at her little SME and OS X laptops for when they're on the go.
This is the first result when you google Windows 11 requirements. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...
All the rest of your complains boil down to being upset that Microsoft doesn’t support old stuff forever… guess how long old versions of Ubuntu are supported? (Hint it’s not forever)
Also I could be wrong but pretty sure windows 8 still gets a free upgrade to Windows 10/11. They don’t advertise it, but the licensing server still accepts old licenses.
Also if you want you basically can do the iso onto a usb…
Consumers DO NOT want this, maybe your business does, but slapping a Win11 install on my nan's fucking toaster shouldn't be blocked because I can't cryptographically sign my left nut to Microsoft.
Also modern version of Ubuntu (and linux distribution in general) have no issues on decade old hardware (I have a couple machines that old).
I have no idea what you do if you're on Windows 8 though. That was one of the ones you were supposed to skip ;)
Maybe not state-of-the-art top-of-the-line PCs, but PCs that people are buying today. PCs people will be getting for Christmas. That's not a question of 'supporting old stuff forever'.
If it was an old Core2 Duo, discontinued in 2012, it kinda makes sense that they might not bother to support that past Win10. But a PC can easily last 10 years, and still work fine if you've got enough RAM and drive space. So there are new PCs being bought today that may be stuck on Windows 10 for the next decade or more (unless 12 fixes that).
I know back in the 90s, when we were going from 8088s to 486s to pentiums, things were rapidly changing with noticeable improvements every year. But that era is long past. Even a rinky-dink CPU by today's standards is way more than enough for normal use and will never get close to stressed unless you're doing experiments with CPU-heavy algorithms or something. And they've been that way for a long time now.
They can fill their purpose perfectly well for a decade or more. In fact, my previous PC had a 2006 CPU which still handled everything just fine in 2016, the upgrade was only needed due to RAM (which required a new motherboard and thus a new CPU). To consider a CPU 'not good enough' just because it's a few years old makes no sense now. I would understand if they didn't support that 2006 Core-2 Duo any more. But to not support a 2016 i5-6500 in 2022? That does not make sense.
80286 to 80386 to 80486 to Pentium. 8088 to 80286 was in the 1980s.
The 80386 introduced in the 1980s, IIRC, but became more common in the 1990s.
(And don't forget the 80386SX -- a 386 with the 286's 16-bit interface! :-)