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The company that ignored Covid restrictions to push workers during the height of the pandemic to continue producing. The CEO that's all about hardcore mode, who installed beds so employees can sleep at work at one of his other companies. ... They're the people, in China of all places, who are now lowering work hours to improve employee retention.

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Did anyone died from ignoring idiotic covid restrictions?

6.6M deaths globally according to WHO (https://covid19.who.int/)

I’m not sure you can attribute every COVID death to failure to follow restrictions that arose after COVID had spread worldwide.

Over the space of nearly 3 years. From a population of 8 billion. Completely overhyped.

Yes, according to hard data.

More people died in Republican counties, who listen much more to the sources telling them that COVID-19 restrictions are "idiotic" before vaccines [0][1], and after vaccines were available, listening to lies the vaccines are ineffective and problematic [2]. These are a mere sampling of credible sources that I found in literally 2 seconds, merely searching from having previously read about the phenomenon. There are studies noted in [3] that put hard numbers on it, around 300,000 deaths in R-leaning areas that were easily preventable by NOT "ignoring idiotic covid restrictions".

Mark Twain famously said that "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".

The only idiocy is listening to the anti-public-health, anti-vax, and anti-science disinformation designed to spread discontent, and then attempting to rebroadcast it.

Your (very unoriginal) opinion does not make you a free thinker — your ability to change your thinking when new data and information arrive is what would make you a free thinker. Try it sometime; it's less comfortable and smug, but those who do actually like it.

[0] https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-12-republicans-higher-co...

[1] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/republican-us-counties-saw-more-c...

[2] https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/once-covid-vaccines-w...

[3] https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1098543849/pro-trump-counties...

Could you point to source with how many Tesla factory workers died with covid?

I don't know that off the top of my head, it is such a small sample as to be meaningless/irrelevant, Tesla likely is doing whatever it can to minimize and bury any cases, it sounds like you are attempting some kind of whataboutism deflection as opposed to seeking an actual answer, and you really should learn how to use Google Search or Duck Duck Go.

Please think before you post. Highlighting your own ignorance and inability to reason well (i.e., look for actual understanding and not merely hunting to cherry-pick things that support your prior bias or ignorant view) is not a good look, nor is it helpful to any discussion.

sheesh

Well, your non-charitable interpretation of others is not only not a good look; it's against site guidelines.

Right. Someone is spreading known anti-science idiocy with a blatant disdain for actual science ("idiotic...restrictions"). The world is so awash in hard data disproving it that continuing to discuss it is like debating whether 2+2=4 or =17.

I provide a response citing some easily-found data that exactly answers the question, and the person persists in spouting the same willful ignorance, so I call it out and I'm the bad guy?

I see no any room for charity when someone is posting support for disinformation that literally kills people by the hundreds of thousands.

Yes, I understand that my response may border on too personal and there are guidelines against that. The site is also supposed to be a place for intelligent discussion, and baseless deadly disinformation also has no place here. So, ya, I'm not particularly patient

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