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> 1) they just ate every other 3rd party "secure" backup services lunch just like they did to the Hi-Res music industry.

This is an excellent point as to why you shouldn't even bother trying to develop software for apple machines. If it's anywhere near successful apple will just destroy you, after having taken a 30% cut from your revenue for years.

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Similar model that Amazon uses.

You pretty much have to be on their store to sell something, which means you give them access to your sales and customers. Which is a concept that is absolutely wild in any normal healthy competitive landscape.

Then they'll monitor and if you manage to actually be successful, 3 months later there's an Amazon Basics version of your product.

It's so incredible to me how these practices get no push-back. There used to be a time where in the case of Windows, people were wondering if its fair that they ship it with a calculator program. Now you can just use your massive platform and extend in every possible direction, seize secondary markets, nobody seems to care.

I think this is the part that is not legal, and which they say the don't do, etc

* Amazon uses third-party seller data to copy the site's most popular products, an antitrust report by the House Judiciary Committee alleged on Wednesday.

* Former Amazon sellers told an antitrust subcommittee the company released new products almost identical to their own and "killed" their sales.

* Amazon has denied accusations of this behavior in the past. "We have a policy against using seller-specific data to aid our private-label business," Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos said in July.

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-uses-seller-data-copy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbxWGjQ2szQ

> There used to be a time where in the case of Windows, people were wondering if its fair that they ship it with a calculator program. Now you can just use your massive platform and extend in every possible direction, seize secondary markets, nobody seems to care.

Windows was artificially crippled by the DoJ ruling and not including a PDF reader by default. I, for one, like it when more is built into the OS by default.

> Then they'll monitor and if you manage to actually be successful, 3 months later there's an Amazon Basics version of your product.

How is this different than Walmart doing the same thing with their house brand? Or a sporting goods store, or any other store for that matter?

You’re comparing security improvements to sherlocking? That’s pure hyperbole.

Well on the optimistic side, they might buy your product or company, which they have done numerous times in the past like with Beats, Shazam, Siri, etc..

Apple will destroy you regardless, they're a megacorp. If the software is good but only on windows they'll just make their own.

ok, i may buy your argument from a perspective of a brand new cloud storage provider that's try to come up online and break into the market, but you're telling me that Dropbox, OneDrive, Box., etc., are all indie developers living in their parent's basements? These companies made a conscious choice not to offer encryption and now got the rug pulled out from under them. steve jobs famously said that this "Storage" is just a feature, not a product, and now they've proved it.

additionally, as far as i can see, those apps all free to download and you can buy their plans outside of the apple ecosystem and thus they get a free ride in the App Store without giving away any cut to apple.

While I am the very first one to fight for allowing side loading on apple devices, didn’t Netherland’s dating services decided in the end to go with Apple’s payment processing even with that cut?

The only software worth developing for Apple machines is FOSS software, and one should not plan to make a living exclusively off it.

Spotify is pretty successful and yet, Apple went in direct competition with them, using APIs that only Apple gets to use in their Music app (like integration with Siri).

You can change the default music app for siri since ios 14

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/set-preferred-music-streami...

And yet I still can't change the default music app that opens on macOS when I hit the media keys!

You can easily map your own macros....

Or use Linux, the highly advanced MPRIS protocol is capable of tracking multiple media applications and presenting their playback controls. It's like space-age tech!

macOS does the same... The only difference is when you don't have a player open at all.

In recent versions, the "default" is just whatever last played media—if you were watching a YouTube video yesterday, and the tab is still open, pressing the play/pause key will start it playing again. There's even a little menu bar widget (it's called the Now Playing menu, and you can find it under Control Center in the system settings) that shows all the instances of actively- or recently-playing media the system knows about. Whatever is on top (IIRC) is what will automatically be controlled by the media keys.

In the car today I asked Siri to play me a particular song (I have had Spotify defaulted for a while), it helpfully signed me up for a 7 day preview of Apple Music Voice and started playing it there! Where's the FTC? Is Apple too big to fail?

“Play X song on Spotify” also works.

iTunes Store predates Spotify by 3 years and the idea of a subscription model was hardly unique to them.

Also Spotify has access to all of the APIs it needs. It just refuses to use them.

https://www.timetoplayfair.com/

Correction: I meant integration between Shazam (which can be invoked by Siri) and the Apple Music app.

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