Switzerland plans to ban electric car use during power shortages this winter
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Emphasis on crisis. Also, I would assume, in this instance, that fuel prices will be exorbitant, so nonessential gas-powered journeys will be curtailed by default.
Cooking a single baked potato in the oven uses more power than my christmas lights for the entire season. Meanwhile there's still a bunch of (mainly old) people bemoaning the lack of 100W incandescent bulbs.
If we want to ration electric use, increase the costs. Add say 50c/kWh, and let people determine what they want to reduce.
If we want to ensure people can still use an essential amount, say 10kWh a day or whatever, give everyone €150 a month to pay the extra costs, funded from the extra costs of those choosing to run incandescent light bulbs.
In the UK we did the complete opposite, we chose to subsidise electric consumption.
Me? I'm no one, and did not attempt to. I only pointed out that the comparison to cooking and having Christmas lights is nonsensical, given the clear difference in impacts not eating vs not looking at pretty lights once a year has on ones health.
As for if disallowing Christmas lights makes any sense in a power crisis, well it'd take more research than I have any interest in doing to answer that question, so I offer no opinion, beyond noting that a surprising number of Christmas lights are incandescence still, so the impact might be larger than you'd assume, and every little bit helps.
As for using market prices to solve everything that ensures the rich feel no restrictions while everyone else does. If your OK with that is up to you.
> Shop opening hours must be reduced by 1-2 hours per day. Each store format can determine the time slot independently. If a company decides to close certain branches completely or to only open the shop on certain days, the number of closed hours will count towards the reduction in shop opening times for the entire branch network.
> Outside opening times, freezers must be covered with Styrofoam panels or night curtains.
> The commercial use of tumble dryers, irons and mangles is permitted for a maximum of eight hours per day. The use for institutions in the health care system such as hospitals, birth centers, medical practices as well as old people's and nursing homes is not restricted.
> If the heat in rooms is mainly generated by electrical energy (such as electric heaters and heat pumps), these rooms may be heated to a maximum of 18°C. This does not apply to rooms that are used for the treatment of patients in healthcare institutions such as hospitals, birth centers, medical practices, and old people’s and nursing homes.
> The operation of whirlpools, body tanning devices, saunas, infrared cabins, steam baths, massage chairs and other electrically operated wellness facilities in the commercial sector is permitted for a maximum of seven hours per day.
> The private use of electric cars is only permitted for absolutely necessary journeys (e.g. professional practice, shopping, visiting the doctor, attending religious events, attending court hearings).
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> Streaming services must limit the resolution of their streaming offers to Standard Definition (SD).
Assuming the content has already been encoded in both HD and SD, how much of a difference does it make in terms of electric consumption to transmit it in HD vs SD, on say 1/ a desktop at home and 2/ a phone in the street?
The article though is pretty sensationalist. The government hasn't announced anything, this whole decree is still in consultation phase it seems.
Edit: there's a potential ban on crypto mining and high frequency trading. Will be interesting to see the final document, but I highly doubt high frequency trading will still be in there :)
I don't even know what to say anymore. How much will energy production rise in your country during its transition to renewables?
The loads will be handled in the same way massive city growth has always been handled; through market-based pricing strategies and development of new production.
Europe is undergoing major geopolitical conflict, adding unique and massive stress to the system. European will cope and adapt.
Yes. In fact one common demand is an almost total replacement of current fossil and nuclear plants.
The viability of electric cars is directly related to the local price of electricity. If you want to see more electric cars on the street the first step should be to reduce the price of energy and the stability of the infrastructure.
EU countries are planning to ban fossil fuel powered cars in the next decade, is energy production actually catching up? Or to rephrase: when will Germany stop being the country with one of the highest energy prices in the world?
Is there anywhere on earth where gas is cheaper than electricity? Outside of like the middle east maybe. I suppose you'd have to remove gas taxes for a clearer picture. But that just shows that the government can make electric viable whenever they want by raising gas prices.
This is a bit complicated, since the two are not directly equivalent.
But as an example example, we can compare a 30mpg car with an EV rated at .24kWh/mile (advertised consumption for a Tesla Model 3). 250 miles would be around 60kWh or 8.33 gallons. Power averages (in the US) around $0.20 per kWh right now, gas about $3.38 per gallon. There's a lot of variance by state for both of these, of course.
And so, for 250 miles, gas would be $28.16, whereas electricity would be $12.
So the answer to your question is: Probably. It's only around 2.5x difference in price, which could easily be inverted somewhere that has a significant oil supply but low power generation capability.
It also doesn't solve any of the other problems.
EDIT: for those not paying attention, the ability to provide grid-tied on-demand power has been in the Tesla since the original roadster.
The fact that most people complaining about imminent grid collapse don’t know this (or don’t realize what it means, or don’t care) makes this debate tiresome.
The need for storage depends on the type of power that is being generated. E.g. a nuclear powerplant can easily change its production, a solar panel or wind turbine can not, that requires renewables to rely on over production and storage for continous delivery. Btw. there isn't enough lithium in the world to make this happen globally.
- there is plenty of excess off-peak power available; grid collapse happens at the peaks.
- Lithium supply is a limiting factor for both EV demand and grid-tied battery capacity, so if cars themselves provided grid tied power, they would necessarily scale with the demand.
So long as the 24-hour average demand was satisfied by the grid supply, the grid would do fine.
And?
>- Lithium supply is a limiting factor for both EV demand and grid-tied battery capacity, so if cars themselves provided grid tied power, they would necessarily scale with the demand.
There still is not enough. It isn't even close.
My point was that energy storage doesn't solve the problem of total under supply and a need for increased grid infrastructure.
But EVs aren’t the problem. They could be part of a solution.
And this is only in extremis.