Care to share with "us" what is it that "we" know about Elon Musk?
Care to share with "us" what is it that "we" know about Elon Musk?
Care to expand how he's sociopathic?
The likelihood of EVs and Tesla in particular impacting climate change is minuscule and much overhyped and oversold.
Regarding sociopathy, I’m not a psychologist, but he seems clearly a narcissist. He almost feels too sensitive and needy to be a sociopath, but who knows.
While fairly true, it isn't really relevant to climate change. If anything, the EV movement has reignited the love of the car, which is harmful to curbing climate change. Building one mile of a one lane road emits 400 times the emissions of building an EV, and building EVs actually emits more emissions than an ICE car. EVs only cross over to be more emissions friendly about 6-24 months into driving ownership, ignoring battery disposal and recycling. EVs are the most overblown response to climate change that will ultimately do nothing.
Rockets are absolutely terrible for climate change. They dump huge amounts of pollutants directly into the atmosphere, including the upper atmosphere.
https://transdef.org/media/Sightline-GHG-analysis.pdf
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220713-how-to-make-rock...
The fact that people see Musk as actually caring about climate change is disheartening. In fact, it may even be the case that Musk and his companies are a net negative in terms of mitigating climate change.
Rockets have a negligible impact on climate change relative to ICE vehicles.
(2) Musk actively hampers government investment in one of the best pieces of infrastructure for reducing transportation related climate change and pollution. See his rebranded vacuum tube train aka the Hyperloop [circa 1799 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain] and how it stopped government investment in high speed rail in California
(3) as for the sociopathic tendencies. The dude claims all the credit for every company he has ever been apart of. Dude doesn't even have a physics degree but doesn't correct people. He is actively promoting the great man of history theory [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory] which is complete bullshit. It takes a group of people to accomplish most great things of history. Hannibal crossing the Alps by himself wouldnt even be a foot note in history of Rome... But with his officers helping him push his military through and into Italy... Well one of the greatest enemies of Rome in her history. Same thing with spaceX, Elon musk didnt design and make his companies rockets... He hired great leaders to dedicate to who made it happen. He is just a 21st century salesman.
EVs replacing gas guzzling cars and SUVs is a win for the environment. You're just regurgitating the oil lobby's misinformation.
>See his rebranded vacuum tube train aka the Hyperloop [circa 1799 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain] and how it stopped government investment in high speed rail in California
Do you have a source for "how it stopped government investment in high speed rail in California"?
>The dude claims all the credit for every company he has ever been apart of.
Trivially debunked, he gives Karpathy the limelight on AI Day, and lets the battery engineers talk on stage on Battery day.
>He is actively promoting the great man of history theory [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory] which is complete bullshit
Source?
The rest aren't even sociopathic tendencies. Being a good salesman, which any CEO should be, isn't sociopathic.
Penalizing ICE auto manufacturers who weren't doing enough switching to clean energy alternatives, while also rewarding the competition that were trying embrace these alternatives?
Effectively having those that weren't doing anything subsidize those that were.
It's not some altruistic move - it propped up Tesla's balance sheet when it was needed, and makes a mockery of his green credentials.
He seems pretty down-to-ground to me, personally, especially compared to other people of similar wealth. What actions/behavior of his make you think he's sociopathic?
> too much capital
I personally agree, but this is still a subjective opinion, not a real criticism. The more general implication of this is that there is such a thing as "too much capital", in which case we need to draw the line - at which point exactly capital becomes too much? A million dollars? A billion?
> brittle long-termism agenda
Brittle or not, arguing that Elon cares only about long term is factually false - he already delivered many things, including Tesla electric cars and Starlink internet service, which are useful here and now.
Just look at the way he's been treating Twitter employees.
For example, making a joke by bringing a "sink in" [1] the company right before making pre-announced firings. That episode right there tells you he's more concerned with making a joke for the lolz than about the emotions of his new employees, which is a pretty clear sociopathic action.
[1] https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-twitter-purchase-sink...
Don't make bombastic jokes when entering a company you're about to eviscerate. It looks tacky, insensitive, and leaves a bad first impression on the people working there.
Sure, but is it enough to call a person a sociopath? By that definition, every rich person sheltered from ordinary working man's reality is a sociopath.
There are other reasons why I think he's likely to be a sociopath, from his bullying behaviour to his increasingly out-of-control impulsive tendencies.
I'm not a doctor so I can't make a diagnosis, but if you really are interested in whether he's a sociopath or not there's plenty of material online with indications on that. Here's a list of signs of sociopathy: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/signs-of-a-sociopath/
Elon's callousness is legendary -- read what his first wife had to say about him, people close to him and the way they were fired, the way he named his son with Grimes, the way he baselesly insulted a hero diver as pedophile, the fact he has so many children he barely sees them.
My impression of prestige tech is that large parts of the industry are children because the money tree kept everyone in cold brew hop teas and catered lunches regardless the usefulness of your product or your monetization strategy.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.