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Hetzner customer for 20 (?) years.

Wish they would add managed databases to their cloud.

Nice to mee another 20 year customer. When I first discovered Hetzner, I couldn't believe their dedicated physical servers were cheaper than the colocation costs I was paying in a Belgian datacentre (without the hardware!). Over the years, I've had some hardware failures, which have always been resolved very quickly. Every time I interact with their support crew, I'm pleasantly surprised by how knowledgeable they are.

+1 for managed Cloud DBs. I'm surprised they don't exist already, given that they have managed DBs on their cheap web hosting platform. Shouldn't be a big step to make that available in Cloud.

Another request I have is virtual routers, so I only need 1 dedicated IP address and can NAT (or whatever) everything else. I get that I can do this with a small Cloud Instance and a private network, but those things are a pain to manage and I'm sure Hetzner could do a better job than myself :-)

Since everyone is all of a sudden voting for managed databases, maybe there is a reason why Hetzner is so cheap and the reason is that they focus on the core and not on satisfying all kinds of feature requests?

It's not "all kinds of feature requests", if you think about it.

IT is basically 2 things, at its core:

* compute

* storage

Hetzner offers cheap compute, which is great because modern applications can have stateless web/app servers.

Now, the missing part is storage, and that's much harder and riskier since it's state, inherently. A server dies, you lose stuff if you misconfigure it.

So people want a fully managed IT solution.

It's simple and it's obvious conceptually, just hard.

And I guess Hetzner won't do it because it's hard thus expensive to do.

There already are full managed solutions. They’re 5x more expensive. It sounds to me like people expect the whole managed experience but 5x cheaper, which is never going to happen.

Wow! Twenty years in this industry is a lifetime! Thanks so much for supporting us all these years! I will pass on a +1 for you to the dev team about the managed databases. --Katie

make that another +1

+1 on managed DBs.

I currently have hybrid DigitalOcean / Hetzner setup to take advantge of load balancer and managed database at DO. If Hetzner provided some of those, I'd gladly switch.

I am not managing replicated postgresql myself ever again.

Yes, me too! (DO/H setup)

We considered DO but found that it was cheeper to hire a sysops firm (Linpro) to manage the DBs on Hetzner. This has the added bonus of humans that you can call if needed...

I absolutely love using Hetzner. Top of my wishlist is Managed Databases and Managed Kubernetes. This is the main of the reason why I'm using Digitalocean for production and Hetzner for more stateless use cases.

Managed K8s would be my dream as well.

Am I you?

I'm working on this -- it will be a while till I get on Postgres (I really hope that's the managed DB you want), but I'd love to get you on the postgres beta list.

<3 Yes it's Postgres, email should be in the profile, would love to participate.

Thank you! You've got mail ;)

Postgres (and later some exciting flavors like Neon) is actually the only database I plan to support, at least for right now -- MySQL and MongoDB are not even on the roadmap really.

I might make an exception for RethinkDB since I loved it so dearly.

> I might make an exception for RethinkDB since I loved it so dearly.

Don't get my hopes up... I haven't used RethinkDB in ages and have fully moved to Postgres though

You should definitely stick with Postgres -- you made the right call.

But also...

https://www.rethinkdb.cloud

Don't know who is behind it -- a company named MostlyTyped (not sure if this has old RDB engineers in it), but warms my heart that the repo is still seeing commits and usage.

Scaleway has a similar pricing for VMs and dedicated, while providing additional managed services: https://www.scaleway.com

I've been there for 2y, pretty happy with them so far.

Hetzner's performance is arguably better (Epyc 2nd gen on Hetzner vs Epyc 1st gen on Scaleway), but their support for IPv6 is certainly much better: Scaleway doesn't offer PTR record and changes the IPv6 assigned to you when they relocate your VPS in the datacenter.

What I want is the anti-AWS.

I want hetzner to concentrate on the core capabilities: servers, storage.

I want Hetzner to provide a PLATFORM to many different database-as-a-service on top of Hetzner. I want choice, and I don't want Hetzner doing what AWS does: stifling competition by releaseing their own flavor-of-open-source-database that puts the core projects sponsoring the open source code out of business.

I want also support this request.

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