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I run Linux and I always just turn my computer off. I don't say that to convince people to switch or anything, but more to explain that "off" really means "off" to me. For my workflow this works totally fine. I have my browsers set to restore the previous session. I open up whatever I was working on and I start up again. It seems so crazy to me that this isn't just a standard workflow. Computers with new SSDs start up so fast from totally being turned off that it never causes me any issue at all. There is an explanation in the comments here about how to activate S3 sleep on Linux, but who cares? I'm just amazed that something that is like 50 times faster than a decade ago is apparently too slow.

Maybe I'm just old. It feels like I've totally lost touch with the way most people use computers today. (Not necessarily in a bad way.)

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If it is for short duration, then power off/on drains more battery than just sleep[0].

[0] https://www.macworld.com/article/675859/should-i-shut-down-m...

I guess it’s different use case.

With my work laptop, I shutdown by 5pm, as I don’t mind booting and opening everything in the next day.

But for my personal laptop, there isn’t a defined use time. Sometimes I just want to check something for 15 minutes, so 2 minutes to boot and open apps is way to long. I don’t want to keep the laptop fully running the whole day while I’m not using it, it should just go into a power saving mode. And I would expect for the laptop to hold the battery and state meanwhile.

Same, even when i take a quick break for maybe 30 minutes and put my laptop in my backpack, i turn it off. I have a startup time from lid open -> login prompt of 7 seconds (measured with `systemd-analyze time`), and i don't have anything that needs to stay open.

yeah i gave up trying to get any sort of suspend working on my 2013 mbp under linux and eventually just set it to power off if i closed the lid. it starts up in literally 2 seconds so i dont notice it.

Same for me with Windows. I just shut it down.

Somehow I thought that Windows now would even wake up computers that people "shutdown". If Windows won't wake up computers after shutdown, then I don't see why people don't just turn them off.

I'm not saying that suspend isn't a useful feature, but given that it doesn't work I'm not sure why people keep using it.

IIRC, I had to fix some settings before it started working like that.

Windows does not have the appropriate support to restore the working environment upon a full restart - e.g. it can't even restart MS Word/Excel with the exact same documents in the same locations, much less the same for third party software. I could "just shut it down" on a Mac, which has this support, however, I don't need to because there the standby works as I would expect.

That is expected behavior for me. New day, new tasks, new documents.

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