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I still don't see the bias? In this case it's clearly that the left has had far more saying in what's allowed on social media than the right, so if you have any integrity you'd stand on the side of the right to create some equality/justice. TDS is a real thing, I was subject to that myself for years. I still think he's a narcissistic shitbag but a lot of stuff was just completely overblown. See, now I'm being Trump apologetic as well even though I've been clearly left-leaning for most of my life.

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> so if you have any integrity you'd stand on the side of the right to create some equality/justice

On the one hand, the leading Presidential candidate on the right has within the last 24 hours said he wants to suspend the Constitution and be reinstated President by dictate on social media. On the other hand, some people were constantly posting he was saying mean things, and some executives at a social media company tried to handle some things.

Totally gotta stand on the side of balance!

I too, am sober, on average.

I've been sober all my life, I was a teetotaller until 2016 when I developed a 4-drinks-a-day habit which persists to this day. I've been clearly sober dor most of my life though.

Left leaning isn’t “the left”. I skimmed the writing. It was about the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party and many Dems believe in liberalism and are within reach of being a moderate. The party leans left socially. No more than that.

TDS was never a real thing amongst the left. It was and is generally a thing amongst liberal Dems and some Repubs. The Lincoln Project is a propaganda PAC attacking TDS and is a great example. It’s by establishment Republicans who have close to the same policies as Trump but want control of the GOP back. A lot of liberal and/or moderate Democrats approve of the Lincoln Project. Too many times have friends been gleeful over their propaganda.

The left did not and is not going to be part of any TDS BS. I consider myself far left and have far more Trump apologetics to say than TDS is overblown.

> the left has had far more saying in what's allowed on social media than the right, so if you have any integrity you'd stand on the side of the right to create some equality/justice

If I may, this is a centrist point of view. Since the left isn’t in the picture, it’s moderates vs the right. How can a call for integrity be to stand with the right when it isn’t binary?

Why not stand with the left? Or even just left leaning American politics like Bernie and the squad. Who are Democratic Socialists. Not even on the left economically. They believe in the Nordic capitalist system. This is one option to stand with and we still haven’t gotten to the left yet. Any one could also stand with the left in these circumstances. Right off the bat we have four options to choose from. With those options, in my humble opinion 99% of the time it takes no integrity to side with the right if youre a left leaning.

> In this case it's clearly that the left has had far more saying in what's allowed on social media than the right.

How so? In my eyes this is a case for a corrupt businessman that uses political ties for his gains. That’s pretty right wing isn’t it. At the very least there is no critique of capitalism, quite the contrary.

Only if you look at it in a vacuum. Given that most of Silicon Valley (esp. Twitter moderators) supported democrats, bringing in Musk mostly balances the equation rather tilting it from neutral to the right.

I also find it interesting that freedom of speech has seemingly become a right-wing talking point.

> freedom of speech has seemingly become a right-wing talking point

Because hate speech and misinformation is part of the right wing platform...

That kind of thinking will definitely not help you be able to put the whole puzzle together.

> bringing in Musk mostly balances the equation rather tilting it from neutral to the right

This is ignoring voter manipulation which was a big part of the 2016 election (as proven by the Cambridge Analytica leaks among other) tilting the voter to the right (see also e.g. brexit’s leave campaign illegal campaign financing and other dodgy behavior).

Compared to these—often flat out illegal—actions by the right, moderating hate speech is nothing.

Compared to democrats calling anything negative towards them "Russian disinformation"? I'd say it's two stupid monkeys throwing poo at each other.

Stop demonizing.

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