And -- as the article points out -- Madoff was in the United States when he confessed. I rather doubt SBF will ever voluntarily set foot on US soil again.
Edit: The treaty itself: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/94-922-Baha...
Which may also be why we aren't seeing a warrant. Maybe SBF is playing for sympathy. But maybe he's just delusional. If the latter is the case, there is no need to tip him off with a performative warrant.
I’ve seen a lot of stupid conspiracy theories on HN, but the SBF political influence meme has to be one of the funniest.
Morality aside, that's probably his best move, assuming he has enough of that $3B loan left to grease the exit.
At least he's not (yet) borrowing Do Kwon's argument about being the victim of an unjustified witch hunt.
Not in any way that would matter. If it was an honest mistake, fleeing to Dubai (or anywhere) is still the right thing to do. Which means doing so doesn't undermine the idea that it was an honest mistake.
If all the data is spread to the winds, if everyone hits ground, can they even file charges? I suppose so, but if there is no evidence pointing to wrongdoing...
To be honest, I'm not even sure what he supposedly did wrong. He took investments, in an unregulated sector, and backed those investments and lost?
If he were a bank, that's 100% legit. No bank I know of, has 100% of investor funds backed by anything. Even in Canada, land of give-a-fuck-sorta, there used to be a requirement for banks to have hard currency (gold, cash) in a vault somewhere, 5% worth of account holder's value, which was inspected annually by the government. Yet the last time I read the bank act, it was removed as a requirement.
If banks don't need any sort of banking for account holders in CAD, why would an unregulated exchange need that?
(Again, I can imagine there are all sorts of things I'm missing... but?!)
For non-capital federal crimes, the basic rule is 5 years, but there are exceptions.
For example, he can easily be contacted for interviews, with an email or phone call, or even by visiting te Bahamas. Thus he is not fleeing, or hiding from contact, and I even presume he has a lawyer, whom the police can contact.
So nothing is suspended here.
Also, isn't FTX a Bahamian company? Why wouldn't he be there?
And what US crime did he commit, as all the accounting stuff didn't happen in the US, but the Bahamas?
The FTX network of companies (see the consolidated bankruptcy filings) includes more than 100 companies, some of which are American, all of which were ultimately controlled by SBF, most of which had what records they had commingled, and most of which seem to have been tools in the same set of international frauds.
Just tracking down them all, the board of directors, etc...
He transferred customer funds to an unrelated hedge fund company (fraud).
He created fake accounting systems to hide the fraud (fraud).
He claimed to be making lots of money just to help others (morally reprehensible and a huge red flag).
That people are still making excuses for him tells you how rotten this entire ecosystem is.
When does it become criminal to skip the step of establishing an accounting system....prior employees say they didn't even know their cash, liability, or trading positions.
FTX customer deposits went into Alameda bank account. Could be that they stayed there and somebody just kept a spreadsheet of deposits?
My point is that the astounding lack of records and systems may make it very difficult to prosecute him. For example, trades and payments were executed just on verbal orders so it will be hard to pin specifics on SBF.
Probably testimony of insiders will be the most compelling evidence against him.
He stole money and enriched himself and his family at the expense of others. He and everyone else involved including his parents, higher up employees and investors should feel deep shame.