Elon has his fanboys, who are going to fan. I think they probably skew fiscally and regulatorily laissez-faire, socially progressive, and middle-aged more than they skew classical conservative.
Which is the best reason that upper-middle class people are screaming about Twitter layoffs. The worst reason is just because they repeat what they've read to each other as a proxy for conversation.
Look at how much the employees of SV/FAANG companies donate to politicians and which ones. It's not hard to see the money laundering going on.
I was a software engineer in the Soviet Union. To buy your family something to eat (like milk, or cheese) you should skip work and spend an hour or more standing in lines at a grocery store. I used a different strategy: work late and around 8 pm there were no lines at you could still buy sour milk, bread and canned fish in tomato sauce. I survived on this and was pretty happy cause I liked my job. But remember the requirement: no kids...
Thesis:
Employing people who barely provide any value is no good for anyone in the long run.
Argument:
Full employment was always the primary goal of all communist countries, so (state) companies were practically required to employ everyone on the job market.
(My comment was: Plain, simple truth.) The argument continues:
Many of those people had little to do and so, when people got their salaries at the end of the month, there wasn't that much stuff in the stores to buy with it, as the companies didn't have much of an output.
(My comment was: Plain, simple truth again. My story: just an illustration what my "living experience" as a software engineer was in these conditions. Basically: if your do not want to spend a lot of time in lines, you can't get milk. Not enough milk was produced to cover all the money paid to all the workers. Only sour milk to those who prefer to spend their time working.)
The app is needed, so we hire people to make app. We got a bunch of designers and developers to develop UI in a team.
But OH NO!, WE DID A GOOD JOB! EVERYTHING WORKS AND IS EASILY EXTENSIBLE!
What next? There isn't enough work on the new stuff ? We just add UI for a feature other team develops every so often, that's not enough work to go by.
And, more importantly, MANAGER CAN'T MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD when doing only maintenance and not delivering features.
What to do, what to do? I know ? Let's rewrite perfectly functioning UI again! Let's fuck around with stuff that works fine already. Make it look "modern" while we're at it. Use new framework so we can't reuse that much code. That will keep the devs busy and manager getting bonuses!
Do you have any examples? Did they identify as Musk supporters? One or two tweets with a sufficiently high amount of replies and 'likes' should be enough. Otherwise, I'd wonder if you are painting a narrative.
It's bizarre how Musk has been propped up into a surrogate for the bad aspects of capitalism, especially by an administration that just overruled a union vote through legislation.
These are real people with real lives that were needlessly disrupted on what is supposed to be a day for love and thankfulness. Sure is a shitty and inhumane way to thank your employees.
If there is time to get a big bag of money from your employee the holiday month is the best one
While you’re caring for a newborn or desperately trying to remain in the country.
During thanksgiving.
So how exactly does giving someone money not make this a shitty and heartless thing to do? You know, what some might call “inhumane”?
Once again, throwing cash at the problem doesn’t fix it. Getting money might be nice, but it doesn’t magically fix the lack of a job.
From https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588671155766194176
"Everyone exited was offered 3 months of severance, which is 50% more than legally required."
Seems reasonably generous. Certainly not "inhumane."
If you trust Elon to do the right thing for employees after seeing the class action lawsuits at Tesla (and more are on the way for Twitter), I have a bridge to sell you.
Where did I say I trust Elon or any other CEO?
Still waiting on someone to explain what is "inhumane" about getting laid off with a severance package. Remember we are talking about employees working at a big tech firm. They'll find work elsewhere, and have had pay above the national average. They likely have plenty of savings.
I don't give a shit about Elon or Twitter. My comment was just holding someone accountable for the narrative they were creating. Typical for HN to have someone jump in with an irrelevant reply.
> Indian employees got no severance
https://www.cnbctv18.com/business/companies/elon-musk-justif...
"Here is an excerpt of letters shared with employees in India and reviewed by CNBC-TV18:
“Today is your last working day at the company, however, you will remain employed by Twitter and will receive compensation and benefits through your separation date of January 4, 2023.""
You should probably ask this of the original commenter.
I've not made any claims one way or the other about whether anything inhumane happened.
So the firings is seen as "karma" coming back to people that "didn't wanted free speech", even if fired person might be utterly unrelated to the whole thing.
> fired in such inhumane ways
gotta complain to your legislators here, musk would be fucked if he tried shit like that in EU...
> The stereotype about conservatives ring true - they don't care about others until it affects them personally.
That's basic human group behaviour and nothing characteristic for any political group. The other side behaves literally identical. Or, well, as usual, the some individuals in the group do, but, also as usual, the more extreme elements of a group often form its public image.