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Why We're Suing NSO Group

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For several seconds, I believed that the Knights of Columbus were suing NSO group. I had no idea that "Knight Columbia" was a thing.

Suing NSO group sounds like a great way to have a death threat mysteriously sent from your phone to an MP.

NSO sold their software to central american cartels? I mean, that's the implication?

Journalists trusted iphones too much.

They should have a public first contact and then use an exclusive and private contact for each source. A cheap samsung or huawei. iphones can't be inexpensive.

The surveillance net is really tight at this point.

One time pads over hf seems like a decent avenue but practically eliminates all sources except for trained intelligence operatives.

Your argument is essentially blaming the victims.

It sounds like suing a gun manufacturer after a shooting. NSO software might not be used ethically but it certainly can be used legally. They have no responsibility to disclose anything.

What? NSO dealt arms to the Saudi government and similarly authoritarian regimes.

Tfw the US government also does this :(

USG has sovereign immunity (as does Saudi government and etc).

A private company does not.

Which largely doesn’t happen only because the US congress passed at an early explicit liability shield for gun manufacturers.

It seems reasonable that this might prevail in court given the arguments in the post. No guarantee, but as they say, that’s why we have the trial.

Selling and/or using NSO and similar software in the US, with certain exceptions about use by the government, is very arguably a violation of a couple of different US laws, including the CFAA.

> It sounds like suing a gun manufacturer after a shooting.

Uh maybe, but you make it sound like the sue-er will lose. I would count a settlement as a win in this instance [1].

> They have no responsibility to disclose anything.

[Citation Needed]

Refusal to disclose information is why Alex Jones lost his lawsuit.

[1]: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/remington-agrees-to-settle-w...

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