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The thing is, all of these issues stem from patriarchal systems.

(assumption) men will be employed (therefore) child support is their responsibility.

(assumption) men are strong independent (therefore) there is no need for assistance.

(assumption) men are made for war (therefore) men are to fight war.

(assumption) men are stronger, more aggressive [see war], etc (therefore) women [being weaker] must be the victims.

(assumption) fathers are severe and disciplinary (therefore) mothers are nurturing and better suited to child rearing.

(assumption) sexual intercourse is an act desired by and initiated by men who are defined by their ability to penetrate (therefore) women can only be penetrated [see also aggressiveness] and men who are penetrated are lowered in status to be nearer the category of woman.

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The anti-male circumcision movement is overwhelmingly male, despite supposed opposition to male circumcision by feminists.

If we leave that issue up to Feminism, feminists, and their long tradition of embracing critical theory, we will have to endure this evil for a whole lot longer.

It will take a large, ultimately male movement to displace it. I simply do not buy that the traditional notion of "patriarchy" is even the most important component of why it continues to exist today.

Given how it massively impacts a mans ability to feel pleasure during sex, it seems like "patriarchy" would have removed it long ago.

What if some of the parts of the bible, or other religious texts, such as this one, weren't designed to be "patriarchal" but were instead created by people who hate pleasure, hate nature, and hate the sensual world? I claim this group of pleasure haters is shockingly gender neutral

Patriarchy hurts men too is a weak and out rightly laughable argument. Because that's not how oppression works, at all.

Let me give you some examples. White masters thought they were stronger than black slaves yet slaves had to do all the dull & dangerous work. Same with the colonial masters they thought their underlings were weak and pathetic so they doubled down on oppression and plundered even more wealth through additional taxation and other means.

All the laws were out rightly favoring the oppressors in every case except magically when it comes to patriarchy. Imagine if Nazi Germany worked like patriarchy. Aryans were the all supreme, the strongest and the most independent race so they would've had almost all laws in favor of Jews right? Nope instead they gassed millions of Jews.

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