Comment by TheRealDunkirk | Hacker News Reader

Comment by TheRealDunkirk | Hacker News Reader

Meh. I used vim for 20 years. Got to the point of tricking it all out with some of the full-blown ~/.vim configs you can just grab from GitHub. Some of the advanced tips on that site take it into the realm of being emacs. But I found that I was basically trying to get it to be... a GUI, with NERDtree and the lot. When I discovered Sublime Text, and multiple cursors, I quickly gave up on vim. I develop web applications (mostly). I'm pointing and clicking all throughout the process, since web pages are inherently graphical. I still haven't masted all of the keybindings for ST, but I think that being obstinate about keeping my hands on the keyboard when I'm editing is a waste of mental effort. YMMV. I think my lack of being able to fly through editor options without using a mouse cost me a job once, but if a place is going to fetishize that over being a deep expert with 25+ years of experience, go for it. I can solve business problems with software.

* Edited for "Sublime Text," though I don't know why I'm bothering, as this is being downvoted.

I think it's being downvoted because people may be interpreting the opening "meh" as too negative. Or possibly not meeting the standards of Hacker News.

Fair enough.

What's the point of leaving a long comment on a post about vim detailing how and why you aren't interested in vim, or about how vim doesn't meet your needs? There are lots of posts here on HN about things that don't interest me, but probably not everyone needs to know about it.

Well, my point was more about how, in the era of GUI's, when working ON GUI's, the idea that vim is somehow miles "better" doesn't necessarily hold up, and measuring how deep your vim knowledge goes is a bit of a nerd dick measuring contest these days, but your point is taken.

> Well, my point was more about how, in the era of GUI's, when working ON GUI's, the idea that vim is somehow miles "better" doesn't necessarily hold up, and measuring how deep your vim knowledge goes is a bit of a nerd dick measuring contest these days, but your point is taken.

But who was making that claim? Yours was a top-level comment, so I can only suppose that it was responding to the article; but I do not find your claim in the article—specifically, I only find two occurrences of the quoted word ‘better’ in the article, neither of which is even mentionining GUIs.

Myself, I have never used any other editor, GUIs included, that matches the experience I have with vim, and I'm a pedestrian user of vim at best. As long as vim keeps existing, it doesn't bother me that other people prefer other experiences; so why inveigh against people with different tastes to yours, or different uses for their text editor from yours, who prefer vim and, preferring it, want to learn how to use it well?

What’s ST?

Sublime Text, I assume

pardon me, but what is ST?

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