Let me know the country you're interested in and I'll dig it up for you.
We need an endgame that makes sense.
She says “clinical trials” which is false.
The only trial that measured infection rate was AZ. And it reduced but did not eliminate the risk.
The statement is 100% false and she had no data to back it up.
She expressly names clinical trials. That statement is false.
And she says "CDC data". What data? The vaccines weren't approved until 14 Feb 2022. What data could the CDC possibly have other than clinical trial data less than 2 months after full approval? It hadn't been used outside trials yet for more than a month or so. What data could they possible *collect and analyze" in less than 2 months?
If you can point me to this data, I'd gladly admit I'm wrong.
The statement is a lie. I'm not sure why you're so aggressively defending it.
Please link to the CDC data. Otherwise I presume it doesn’t exist.
And you failed to address that both trials never tested infection rates.
Just because I got dates wrong doesn’t excuse you from addressing those two questions.
UK's SIREN had a lower risk reduction recorded (60% IIRC), but more importantly, it halved after three months. Governments and others thought, wrongly, that elimination was possible. But the writing was on the wall since March 2020.
To name just a few.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33786969
> Fauci's more detailed quote from your link:
> “So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it”
> And my understanding is that, in May of 2021, that was very much true and that studies did show that the vaccine greatly reduced transmissibility. With new variants, though, the original vaccines, while still being protective against severe disease, did a much worse job against preventing mild illness and transmission.
He said for the vaccinated the virus level makes it "extremely unlikely". Everybody knows that's completely false. It's anything but extremely unlikely with vaccinated people spreading the virus all around the globe, both symptomatic and asymptomatic.
Why are you like this?